New to this forum.Just got a snake and need help.

Hi everyone i just picked up a male pastel at the new england reptile expo yesterday and paid $150 for him hes around 3-4 feet havn't measured him yet the lady told me he is ready to breed but my question is when i brought him home he looked very normal to me so i just want to know if i got ripped off or if he really is a pastel i tried looking online to find the differences and some times i think, no he is a pastel than other times i'm like great i got ripped off lol.I've looked at his eyes and there not all black the color of his eyes actually match his color on his head cause he has two yellow/white/orange (one of those) lines on both sides of his head they go just over both eyes and on his eyes where the yellow lines are his eyes are like yellow too and his tummy is all white.Please someone help me..I will have pictures up of him very soon so you can actully see.The thing is when i take a picture with my phone camera he looks normal and when he see him in person but when i take it with my actually camera he looks very yellow/orange.

Hi,

Try taking the shots in better light if you can - and don't forget to get a picture of the belly pattern. :gj:

And also the name of the place you bought him might help - if it comes from a trustworthy seller then chances are it is what they said it is. :)


dr del

I took the pictures when he was in his cage under the basking light and the cage is all white inside so the light is bright and i don't know if i want to put the companys name up here cause i dont want to like put them on blast you know?.But i got there business card and they have a store in manchester nh. But i will take pictures of his stomach also.

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Originally Posted by bobbyb

I took the pictures when he was in his cage under the basking light and the cage is all white inside so the light is bright and i don't know if i want to put the companys name up here cause i dont want to like put them on blast you know?.But i got there business card and they have a store in manchester nh. But i will take pictures of his stomach also.

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It's not putting them on blast, you're unsure of how to differentiate between an adult pastel and normal. If it was sold as a pastel, it's likely you got what you paid for. Pastels with a lot of orange as a baby tend to "brown out" as adults and can appear to be normals. Of course, a picture would help :) If it's warm where you live, take a picture outside, sunlight does wonders!

Its normal to have difficulty in identifying certain ball python morphs if you've just started on this hobby. I remember a few years back, I often consider my normal ball python to be a pastel since he has a very light blushings on his head. But with research using various books and internet sites, plus joining this and other reptile forums, I started learning and soon I just found myself easily identifying even some subtle morphs. Just like what Kymberli said, its not putting them in a blast. Its just a way for some people here to easily identify if the snake you purchased was indeed a pastel. Reputable breeder = sure shot in getting what you paid for. Its just that simple. Cant wait to see your snake's picture. And goodluck w/ the hobby! :)

Reading about the eyes makes me think you have a pastel. Post those pics and we can help more. And they best said it above about being a honest business makes it easier to know you get what you paid for.

I got him from Dave's dragons managers name is David a. Yao.His stomach is all white then his sides go from white to like a yellow/orange than to a dark orange almost brown and his white goes up to almost half his sides dont know if that helps i will have pictures probably not till tomorrow well actually i can post my pictures from my phone but there not that good

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Hi,

Definately a pastel. :)


dr del

You have a pastel. :)

Was $150 a good price for him or did i pay to much?..Also is $150 to much for a normal female she just laid 9 baby's the person said and also said before she was gravid she weighed 2500 grams,to me i'm thinking $150 is to much for a normal but because she's breeder ready it may be a good price but i'm not sure well she's not breeder ready yet since she just laid eggs but breeder proven he bred her to a pinstripe.

$150 is not bad for a normal breeding size female. If you paired her with a morph male, she could make you a lot of money right away. I would ask for her weight AFTER laying her clutch and ask whether she is back on feed.

Yeah i asked he sent me a picture of her but he didn't tell me her weight and he said shes not feeding yet i think she like just laid them a couple days ago and he said she should go back on feeding in a couple days

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He said she was 2500 grams before she was gravid and he don't have a gram scale now to see how much she weighs..But $150 for my pastel is a good price?.And $150 for a female breeder is a good price?

Well depends on how big she is now after layin the clutch. Also if she goes back into feed soon. Also ask yourself why is he getting rid of a big breeder? Por feeder? Etc...ofc there might be a genuine reasonbut it's worth thinking about.

I didn't even think about that thank you

How can you guys tell its a pastel what do you guys look for?

This thread has good info on how to identify pastels. :)

This one has a link list to the same sort of guide to a lot of the other morphs.

Looks like a pastel to me. Can I just suggest that if you are a new bp owner and new to bp's in general that you not think about breeding just yet? It takes a while to learn all the necessary things and it's a lot of work. Just saying.

I'm thinking of eventually breeding but now right now but I'm not new to bp's I've owned a couple but I wasn't fully into it like with the morphs but now I am but if I breed it will be for me so I can get the type that I want that I wouldn't be able to afford I mean I would probably sell some to make room for others but that's probably it.

But thank you everyone for your help i'm happy i didn't buy a normal lol even if he was a normal i still like him no matter what i just wanted to know for when i do breed him so i would know what to get so thank you everyone once again.Also nobody told me if $150 was a good price for him i know that $150 is usually in the high end price for a pastel male.I will have my better pictures of him up later so you guys can really see his colors and stuff but thank you everyone.

The guy with the female for $150 said he just needs the money and hes getting out of the breeding.

Sorry for all the pictures lol but these are from my camera he has an all white stomach and you can see the white and yellow/orange on his sides and his eyes


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