morphs that fade

Hey guys,

I was just wondering what morphs have a high tendency to fade, and what ones keep their colors really well. For example I love pastel's, but i have noticed that many adults fade to nearly the same colors as a normal.


What do you guys think?

pastels, axanthics. Most lose that crisp baby color.

I'm a big fan of Lessers. Not only do they not fade, their colors gets even better with age.
Here is a pic of my Lesser male at about 14 months:http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/show...mageuser=16263

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Originally Posted by bullies&balls

pastels, axanthics. Most lose that crisp baby color.

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How about super pastels? Do they seem to fade the same as het pastels?
I noticed that not all pastels fade, so maybe its genetics. Brian Gundy has an amazing adult pastel on his youtube channel; very bright colors.

Nerd line Lemon pastels get better with age. But you must make sure it is a Nerd line lemon. Any one can call a lemony looking pastel a lemon.

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Originally Posted by Agent73

I'm a big fan of Lessers. Not only do they not fade, their colors gets even better with age.
Here is a pic of my Lesser male at about 14 months:http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/show...mageuser=16263

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Messed up the BBC, here he is:http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/file...3/dsc_0101.jpg

anything with fire gets better and better.... Your pastels may fade or brown but fireflies get lighter and brighter... Anything crossed with fire seems to be that way

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Originally Posted by tonkatoyman

Nerd line Lemon pastels get better with age. But you must make sure it is a Nerd line lemon. Any one can call a lemony looking pastel a lemon.

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I've seen plenty of browned out lemons, most directly from NERD, while they do produce nice pastels not all of them are, lemon by no means = better.

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Originally Posted by Krynn

How about super pastels? Do they seem to fade the same as het pastels?
I noticed that not all pastels fade, so maybe its genetics. Brian Gundy has an amazing adult pastel on his youtube channel; very bright colors.

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I don't think there's het pastels, Pastels are the Het. form of the supers Pastels.If that's what you meant then I'm sorry I just don't want someone to try and sell you a Het. Pastel. :colbert:

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Originally Posted by Agent73

I'm a big fan of Lessers. Not only do they not fade, their colors gets even better with age.
Here is a pic of my Lesser male at about 14 months:http://ball-pythons.net/gallery/show...mageuser=16263

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http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...smith/redx.jpg

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Originally Posted by TheBeastMaster86

I don't think there's het pastels, Pastels are the Het. form of the supers Pastels.If that's what you meant then I'm sorry I just don't want someone to try and sell you a Het. Pastel. :colbert:

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Technically pastels are visual hets for super pastels. ;)

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I've seen plenty of browned out lemons, most directly from NERD, while they do produce nice pastels not all of them are, lemon by no means = better.

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I have one. I love him just the same though! :D

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Technically pastels are visual hets for super pastels. ;)

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That's what they said lol... It was actually be Pastel het. Super Pastel.

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Originally Posted by TheBeastMaster86

I don't think there's het pastels, Pastels are the Het. form of the supers Pastels.If that's what you meant then I'm sorry I just don't want someone to try and sell you a Het. Pastel. :colbert:

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haha thanks for the warning, but I was aware :P. Heterozygotes are the "pastel" morph, whereas the super form is recessive. Thats what i was referring to.

Funny you mention that cause a while ago somebody on kijiji was selling a bunch of 100% het mojos and pastels (that appeared normal). Im pretty sure he was trying to rip people off.

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Originally Posted by Krynn

haha thanks for the warning, but I was aware :P. Heterozygotes are the "pastel" morph, whereas the super form is recessive. Thats what i was referring to.

Funny you mention that cause a while ago somebody on kijiji was selling a bunch of 100% het mojos and pastels (that appeared normal). Im pretty sure he was trying to rip people off.

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Yeah, the sad part is alot of people falsely label there animals for prophet. And the super form is a dominant mutation.

I suppose using the word recessive OR dominant is slightly misleading because it is a co-dominant morph. Really the wild type allele, and the pastel allele are equally dominant (hence why hets do not have either wild type, or superform phenotype but rather an intermediate phenotype)

My super pastels fade their yellow color as they get older too. :mad: