Help! Is this a leopard or labyrinth pastel ?! maybe something els??

I bought a fire female from a respectable breeder and before i could collect her at a show she called me with bad news she sead the snake died along with 2 other snakes of her. i payed 400euros for the snake and she was 500gr

this is very sad but she died because of a mistake of somebody els (the care taker on that moment)

Now she offers me a leopard/labyrith pastel 2010 and she's 400gr
iam very excited because of the potential but i dont know alot and i cant find alot of this morph on internet. and if its a leopard is she automaticly het for pied?

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...bo/freaky2.jpg

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...bo/freaky1.jpg

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/...inbo/fraky.jpg

thanks Greetz!

If I just saw this snake without any info, my guess would be a pastave (Pastel/Mojave)
I could be wrong but that's my guess

It looks very much like a leopard pastel to me, I've seen a handful at some shows with very similar patterns (oblong blotches with LARGE black blotches inside). I'm still very unsure of how exactly leopards work, but I THINK they are essentially a visual form of het piebald.

I don't know if its a leopard but the pattern is insane. When I first saw it I thought it looked like a pastel spotnose but I'm no expert. Good luck hopefully you can get your answer soon.

Dunno what it is, but if the price is right, I'd buy it!

ummm looks like a normal Pastel to me.

It's a jungle pastel. Nice looking.

I'm thinking Jungle Pastel as well.

I think the Jungle pattern can be genetic, but isn't always. :confused:

Very lovely snake, it wouldn't hurt my feeling to add it to my collection.

Gale

Looks like Labyrinth/Harlequin pastel to me... Is a very nice Animal if Price is Right I'll borrow money to get it !!!

Hi,

I think a lot of this is going to come down to the breeder - if BHB, RDR, Muddoc or J Kobylka told me it was a leopard pastel that would be good enough.

If someone I had never heard of told me then I would probably look for some reassurance. :)


dr del

Oh that's a tough call. I got to see a leopard pastel in person this weekend and it looks really similar but not exactly like that.

Look here. leopard pastel.....
http://www.grazianireptiles.com/gall...1281633255.jpg

Um, i think I'd quarantine it for a very long time. It seems a tiny bit weird that so many of their snakes died all of a sudden like that. It's a gorgeous snake, but maybe make sure they didn't die of IBD?? 8( Nothing against the seller and not trying to panic you, but I'm paranoid and would want to know positively the cause of death of the others before making any purchases.


Looks like a leopard to my un-experienced eye!

Thanks guys for all the info. i spoke to the breeder and the genetics. of this morph seems to be co-dom. Her mother looked just like her and the breeder bought her for more then i payed for her. She gave me the snake because of what had happend with the others.
I also spoke to a Well known breeder here in holland that i know very good. he told me that he recently had the snake in hes hands while he was on a visit at the breeder i bought her from.

He also told me she was defestated of her loss and that the animals died do to an electrical prob. the care taker wasnt there on time.
Iam veryveryveryvery GLAD with this snake because it is a great project to begin with.
She offerd me a gen. Stripe male or a cinnamon female but i chose this "leopard/labyrinth" pastel even though ive got a yb pastel / super pastel and a normal pastel all females now she joined the group. I never ment to have this much pastels i gues this is just the way the cookie crumbled lol =)

ive collected the animal at the Houten show yesterday and shes just insane !!! i cant wait to produce more of em .. and btw i had my first clutch EVER yesterday !!! :D what a great fealing i feal like i was missing out all this years..!! THanks again mates for every one of you'all' comments ill keep you guyz updated.!! CHEERS!!!