Are cinni's more agressive than other morph's?

I write this because in a lot of pics I see Cinni (and other snakes with that gene in them) animals are usually in a strike position and very rigid looking. My 2 females are the exact same way when they are handled they also will strike before any other's will. My pewter male is a little more relaxed but still has the rigid/striking personality to him. Anyone else notice this or should I just work with these 3 snakes a lot more?

Might be a coincedence but my cinny male use to strike for everything! He was great eater though.

It's a well guarded secret that all cinnys are like pitbulls and should be put down. Send them all to me and I will take care of it!

no, snake are individuals, cinnies are just like any other BP

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Originally Posted by wax32

It's a well guarded secret that all cinnys are like pitbulls and should be put down. Send them all to me and I will take care of it!

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Lol careful what you say, those pit bulls have bad enough reps as it is :( but it's good to hear you'll take those evil snakes off our hands so selflessly haha.

I remember seeing a SnakeBytesTV episode where Brian mention that with his collection he's noticed that the lighter ball pythons seem be tamer, but some like the super cinni's seemed to be more aggressive. It was just an observation, so there's no fact to it. I don't own a cinni so I can't comment from personal experience. If I remember what episode he said it in I'll post a link.

My male and female cinnys (350g & 700g) are two of the sweetest, most carefree balls that I have. They have never struck at us, and really don't bother to ball up much.

I don't have any cinny's but the black pastels I have are puppy dog tame and only strike at their food :)

brian at bhb did a sankebytes episode that bordered racist insnakes. :D

but he concluded that the darker the snake,
the more aggressive.
super cinny's and super black pastels where what he demonstrated.

im not saying its true but, hey watch the video.

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Originally Posted by west coast jungle

no, snake are individuals, cinnies are just like any other bp

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

no, snake are individuals, cinnies are just like any other BP

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Exactly. I would never in a million years consider my Pewter (Pastel Cinnamon) female aggressive. She'd be the last Ball Python in my collection that I'd ever expect to bite. They are all individual animals with their own personalities.

See what I always found funny is brian will say that, but then a friend of mine has cinnies directly from him and all of them are like any other ball python, not aggressive at all and he has atleast 7-8 cinny/cinny combos produced from brian's stock.

Brian also has a episode which he tests a theory we all already know, which if you handle an animal, it will be tamer.

I still say their just individuals. I also think how they are brought up plays a big roll also.

Well I have a male pastel that bite me every chance he gets, even though he is fed very well. My yellowbelly female is the sameway mabe worse she trys to get me through her tub. I think that lighter bp's are more aggressive. My pastel left four teeth marks on ur just today.

My one cinny girl, the pride of my collection, is also the one of the sweetest and calmest.

Gale

I will continue to work with my Cinni's and get them to be like the rest of my collection. I was just wondering if this might be a genetic thing. I figured it wasn't but I wanted to make sure. They are part of the pride of my collection (I actually am very proud of all of my snakes) and I plan on doing many different things with the snakes as far as breeding them with certain other animals. I am just patiently waiting for them to grow up. Attitiude is the #1 reason I buy the snakes when they are young. I want to know them before I breed them. I think it is important to know the animals and their individual quirks. My wife just loves to hear me talk while I am feeding and cleaning out cages. Once again thanks you everyone for your input.

I have a 1200+ gram cinny female and she's super docile. Never had an issue. I don't think it's a morph thing, they all have their own unique personalities.

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Originally Posted by Kateesaurus

Lol careful what you say, those pit bulls have bad enough reps as it is :( but it's good to hear you'll take those evil snakes off our hands so selflessly haha.

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Yeah but so don't snakes...my normal is going to grow up and eat my child according to everyone lol ;)

Good to hear there are examples of easy going cinni gene snakes. My exposure is very limited. I've seen one super and he's a terror and then I picked my male from two brothers and didn't pick the nicer looking one because he was the most aggressive ball python I've ever seen. The one I did pick is rigid when handled but doesn't actually strike.

I have seen aggression follow family lines in other projects so maybe it's just that some of the founder cinnamon's or some of the early normals they where crossed with where aggressive animals but it's a separate gene from the cinnamon mutation?

How funny Lgray23 my inlaws tell me the same thing, (I can't believe you bought a snake when you have two small boys, what happenes when he gets big he could swallow your youngest son). LMAO they dont know anything too many movies, they act like my ball is going to be an Anaconda or something. LOL.

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Originally Posted by AlbinoBall

How funny Lgray23 my inlaws tell me the same thing, (I can't believe you bought a snake when you have two small boys, what happenes when he gets big he could swallow your youngest son). LMAO they dont know anything too many movies, they act like my ball is going to be an Anaconda or something. LOL.

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I know right! The worst part is when you finally convince someone to come over and look at them. Everyone wants to see the young baby snakes. I just cross my fingers and say "please don't strike, please." Lol.

My Black Pastel was a terror when he was young. He was the only one to strike at me through the glass. And, I have a dark spider girl that bit me twice when she was really little.

I still can't come up with a good way to tell people, no you don't want to hold the little ones, they are nasty little snots. Here, take the 2000 g girl. Lol.

I have a pair of cinnys and mine are great, love to come out of their cages and hang on me while I'm working in the snake room or just around the house.

I only have one cinny, and she is the sweetest thing ever. No cage agression, no out of cage agression, and shes never jumpy at all. Out of all the snakes I've handled shes probably the most calm.

Thats a normal day. COMPLETE different story when she smells food on feeding day :D

i have two cinnis myself..my big 09 male is a sweetie..and my lil 10 female is a lil snappy but seems to be calming down just fine! my sensus cinnis are just like all other balls ^-^

All of my cinnies are very laid back although they are great feeders. I definitely agree that it all depends on the individual snake. Hatchlings definitely tend to be "pissy" but I also have some adult bp's that must think they are boas! I can't slide their tubs out of the rack without them coming straight for me like a shark! I think they have actually learned that having the tub opened typically means its feeding time.

You know, it's very interesting that someone mentioned Brian's comment about the darker balls being more aggressive than the lighter ones.

I know snakes are obviously different than dogs, but there was a study done on the demeanor of dogs relative to their coat color. The study actually showed that in dogs with higher levels of certain color pigments there was also a higher level of stress inducing hormones in the dog. The opposite was true about dogs with lower levels of these pigments there were lower levels of these hormones.

Obviously not every brown dog is going to be psychotic, but as a dog groomer I can say that my personal observations have confirmed that, in general, dogs of certain colors are more hyper/stressed. For example I've noticed with labs in particular that yellow labs are the more calm, mellow dogs and chocolate labs are pretty much crazy with black labs being somewhere in the middle.

Again, dogs and snakes.... not the same thing, but it makes you think.

Just for the record, I do own one of these "evil" cinnies and I love her!!:gj: