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  • 03-25-2011, 02:23 PM
    paul begg
    Fader Pastel Butter
    This girl gets better by the day! Can't wait to see what we get this year from her mom :)

    http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/w...g/IMG_0231.jpg

    Thanks for looking,
    Cheers
    Paul
  • 03-25-2011, 02:25 PM
    Freakie_frog
    WOW!!.. Nice how did you I'd like to see her mom..
  • 03-25-2011, 03:38 PM
    Simple Man
    Great looking snake! Thanks for sharing.

    Regards,

    B
  • 03-25-2011, 03:42 PM
    spitzu
    Re: Fader Pastel Butter
    Very nice!
  • 03-25-2011, 03:55 PM
    Adam Chandler
    Just Awesome:gj:
  • 03-25-2011, 06:55 PM
    vpjimmyd
    Crazy fade on that girl. Awesome!
  • 03-25-2011, 08:30 PM
    wax32
    Really nice snake!
  • 03-26-2011, 09:54 AM
    Serpent_Nirvana
    :O Holy cow! I haven't seen much crazy "fader" gene stuff -- she is awesome!

    Is it known how the gene is inherited? World of Ball Pythons says it is dominant, but NERD's site implies that it's recessive ... :confused:
  • 03-26-2011, 10:32 AM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Fader Pastel Butter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana View Post
    :O Holy cow! I haven't seen much crazy "fader" gene stuff -- she is awesome!

    Is it known how the gene is inherited? World of Ball Pythons says it is dominant, but NERD's site implies that it's recessive ... :confused:

    link to nerd site? I don't see where they say anything about it besides just having them for sale.
  • 03-26-2011, 09:42 PM
    paul begg
    Thanks for the replies guys. She is the result of a butterpin to LTC female pastel. We had no idea that she was hiding something :) This year we bred a killerbee and a lemonblast to her so hopefully we'll see what a super pastel fader will look like!
    Cheers
    Paul
  • 03-26-2011, 09:54 PM
    Kymberli
    Oh my!! That is an amazing morph! It looks as if someone rubbed off most of the pattern and color :P Beautiful.
  • 03-27-2011, 09:44 AM
    Serpent_Nirvana
    Re: Fader Pastel Butter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paul begg View Post
    Thanks for the replies guys. She is the result of a butterpin to LTC female pastel. We had no idea that she was hiding something :) This year we bred a killerbee and a lemonblast to her so hopefully we'll see what a super pastel fader will look like!
    Cheers
    Paul


    That about answers my question then! ... Partially :)

    What I was referring to on NERD's site is the description of this animal:

    http://newenglandreptile.com/cart/ba...ale-8-10f.html

    In it, they say that she should be bred to a fader male to bring out her full potential ... But if the gene is simple dominant (not incomplete dom, recessive or "cumulative"), if she does carry the fader gene, breeding her to a lesser or any other morph that "uncovers" the fader should be sufficient. If she doesn't carry it, then breeding her to a fader male will be no different than breeding any other pastel to a fader male.

    Looking through the World of BPs morph list that contain "fader," I feel like I can strongly see the influence of the gene in some of them, and others I just don't see it ... Maybe I just don't have the "eye."

    As I said in my first post, your female is the most striking example of "fader" gene influence I've ever seen!
  • 03-27-2011, 10:16 AM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Fader Pastel Butter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Serpent_Nirvana View Post
    That about answers my question then! ... Partially :)

    What I was referring to on NERD's site is the description of this animal:

    http://newenglandreptile.com/cart/ba...ale-8-10f.html

    In it, they say that she should be bred to a fader male to bring out her full potential ... But if the gene is simple dominant (not incomplete dom, recessive or "cumulative"), if she does carry the fader gene, breeding her to a lesser or any other morph that "uncovers" the fader should be sufficient. If she doesn't carry it, then breeding her to a fader male will be no different than breeding any other pastel to a fader male.

    Looking through the World of BPs morph list that contain "fader," I feel like I can strongly see the influence of the gene in some of them, and others I just don't see it ... Maybe I just don't have the "eye."

    As I said in my first post, your female is the most striking example of "fader" gene influence I've ever seen!

    Kevin may suspect to be co-dom/incomplete dom, I don't think enough breeding have been done to really figure it out, to me it doesn't even look like its been isolated from the pastel gene (I may be wrong) so who knows. I have also seen some "nothing specical" faders and then there is stuff like the OP's animal. Possible super fader? Should ask kevin some questions about what he has figured out. at the rate hes producing them it doesn't appear to be recessive.
  • 03-27-2011, 10:26 AM
    ballpythonluvr
    Re: Fader Pastel Butter
    That snake is just freakin gorgeous! I love it!
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