1st timers "?"

Ok so I'm sure its not follicle building becuz she's off feed now for 3 weeks.
But she locked up twice in this same time period(3 weeks)
But she is huge! And has major tail suckage!
But hasn't shed.
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My question is. Is it possible for her to have already ovulated without a prelay shed?



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I am interested to see some answers as well. My female seems very large (but it could just be wishful thinking on my part and my eyes may just be playing tricks on me).

Although I am thinking something might be up because her and my male did not lock up after being together for 24 hours this weekend and in the past it took no longer than an hour to get a lock.

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I am interested to see some answers as well. My female seems very large (but it could just be wishful thinking on my part and my eyes may just be playing tricks on me).

Although I am thinking something might be up because her and my male did not lock up after being together for 24 hours this weekend and in the past it took no longer than an hour to get a lock.

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I was fooled, my normal went through all the motions!! I'm a newbee first of all let me say that, I've never bred any pythons!!! I did what everyone said I cut her off of feedings lowered the temps and put the male in with her. She blimped up like a balloon, I never saw them locked up either but saw them always all tightly knotted up together so after a week of this I took him out. After a month her demeanor was totally different she would hiss and strike at me when i went to change her water she was very aggressive at this point, she would curl her water bowl, she did a pre-lay shed. I got no eggs :(. Back to square one, the male is in with her again, this time he is way more aggressive toward her.

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I was fooled, my normal went through all the motions!! I'm a newbee first of all let me say that, I've never bred any pythons!!! I did what everyone said I cut her off of feedings lowered the temps and put the male in with her. She blimped up like a balloon, I never saw them locked up either but saw them always all tightly knotted up together so after a week of this I took him out. After a month her demeanor was totally different she would hiss and strike at me when i went to change her water she was very aggressive at this point, she would curl her water bowl, she did a pre-lay shed. I got no eggs :(. Back to square one, the male is in with her again, this time he is way more aggressive toward her.

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I dont think that you are supposed to cut off her feeding. Thats how they build. You should be feeding alot actually. You should always offer food. When they are close to ovulating many will stop eating on their own but not all.

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I dont think that you are supposed to cut off her feeding. Thats how they build. You should be feeding alot actually. You should always offer food. When they are close to ovulating many will stop eating on their own but not all.

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Let me rephrase the I cut off her feeding. She actually did that on her own. She stopped eating and put herself in the whole breeding mode. I was freaking out being a newbee and all. I inherited her from a friend and she was eating just fine!! Trust me on that, she would eat the biggest rat I could find, then poof not a nibble. But I have good news she's in a lock up with a spider the same male I put her with originally. This time he's aggressively locking with her over and over... :) So a week of this then a break and back in he goes and we'll try it again :)

Glad to hear about ur spider and his dame... but anyone able to sugggest advice or insight to my question!? Lmao!

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How long have you been pairing them for?

Sorry about that. These threads can easily get carried away and the subject changed, I've had it happen on mine with no answers. I would imagine that they could ovulate without pre ovy shed. From what I hear they are all on their own schedule's. It sounds like mine are exactly in the same situation as yours. Mine all had sheds exactly one month ago and I assumed it was a pre ovy shed but I havent seen any ovy's yet and I dont know an approximate timeline after pre ovy shed and ovulation. Also has she been on the hot spot or the cool side? They generally sit on the hot spot all the time after ovulation. Sorry I cant be more help. Good luck though.

Pre lay shed comes after ovulation.

Building, ovulation, pre-lay shed, then delivery of eggs.

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How long have you been pairing them for?

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since early oct. lol

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has she been on the hot spot or the cool side? They generally sit on the hot spot all the time after ovulation. .

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mostly hot but she has a big enclosure,
so she's back and forth thru out, but hot mostly.

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Building, ovulation, pre-lay shed, then delivery of eggs.

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building, she went off feed 3-4 weeks ago so she's done building
ovy, doesnt that only last a day? she's still fat as a cow. going on 2 weeks.
so its definately a rule, they shed ALWAYS before lay?

thanks all.

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Sorry about that. These threads can easily get carried away and the subject changed, I've had it happen on mine with no answers. I would imagine that they could ovulate without pre ovy shed. From what I hear they are all on their own schedule's. It sounds like mine are exactly in the same situation as yours. Mine all had sheds exactly one month ago and I assumed it was a pre ovy shed but I havent seen any ovy's yet and I dont know an approximate timeline after pre ovy shed and ovulation. Also has she been on the hot spot or the cool side? They generally sit on the hot spot all the time after ovulation. Sorry I cant be more help. Good luck though.

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I'm just quoting dome because he actually said pre ovy shed but I think that's what you were asking about sookie?

there really is no such thing as a pre-ov shed. some females will shed before the ovulation a month before or some will shed three months before like mine did. theres no real timeline for a shed before ovulation. as your female is nearing ovulation she will be very distended and swelling. about a day or two after ovulation she will lose this massive swell and go back to how she normally looks. then about 15 days later she'll shed, then a month and you've got eggs.

hope this helps

-xan


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I'm just quoting dome because he actually said pre ovy shed but I think that's what you were asking about sookie?

there really is no such thing as a pre-ov shed. some females will shed before the ovulation a month before or some will shed three months before like mine did. theres no real timeline for a shed before ovulation. as your female is nearing ovulation she will be very distended and swelling. about a day or two after ovulation she will lose this massive swell and go back to how she normally looks. then about 15 days later she'll shed, then a month and you've got eggs.

hope this helps

-xan


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Dude thank you so much!! That sounds about what's going on with my female to the "T"! Thanks again!

Sorry but if I can ask one more "?"
How long does an ovulation last? I've been under the impression that it last for 24hrs?
Not nearly 2 weeks :? I'm just worried I might not have warning of eggs and don't want to be caught unprepared!

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Dude thank you so much!! That sounds about what's going on with my female to the "T"! Thanks again!

Sorry but if I can ask one more "?"
How long does an ovulation last? I've been under the impression that it last for 24hrs?
Not nearly 2 weeks :? I'm just worried I might not have warning of eggs and don't want to be caught unprepared!

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well this is my first year but my females ovulation lasted about a day and half but she was swelling up for about a week. I think your best bet would be to start preparing for eggs and just get a quick cooler incubator ready or if you have a mini fridge use that. better safe than sorry and having to scramble at the last second.

if you're female is still huge and swelling up chances are shes not ovulated yet and you may not have missed it. from the reading i've done and observations with my female, before ovulation they are huge and massive, after ovulation they lose the huge bulge and take on a more tent-like appearance in that lower third region.

im very glad I could help and I hope everything goes well :)


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well this is my first year but my females ovulation lasted about a day and half but she was swelling up for about a week. I think your best bet would be to start preparing for eggs and just get a quick cooler incubator ready or if you have a mini fridge use that. better safe than sorry and having to scramble at the last second.

if you're female is still huge and swelling up chances are shes not ovulated yet and you may not have missed it. from the reading i've done and observations with my female, before ovulation they are huge and massive, after ovulation they lose the huge bulge and take on a more tent-like appearance in that lower third region.

im very glad I could help and I hope everything goes well :)


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Thanks so much! Yeah I figure patience is the only way I'm gonna sleep at night....
But I am buying an incubator soon just to be ready.


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Thanks so much! Yeah I figure patience is the only way I'm gonna sleep at night....
But I am buying an incubator soon just to be ready.


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good idea my friend. not sure which incubator you plan to buy but I would definitely steer clear from the accutemp/reptipro/think geek mini fridge incubator. I bought the thinkgeek one( they're all the same ) and the temps held pretty decently if you spent a few hours calibrating it. on the other hand the space in it sucks. there wasn't enough room to fit a 6 qt sterilite. needless to say I returned it and got my refund minus shipping. I'll gladly take the loss as long as it means having enough space lol.

good luck


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I was thinking since I'm only gonna have(hopefully) the one clutch to get the little incubator fridge by I think exoterra. Or the reptibator from zoomed.

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Building, ovulation, pre-lay shed, then delivery of eggs.

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Exactly, and after the pre-lay shed you have somewhere between 27-32 days someone correct me if i'm wrong for egg laying. :D