Woma or Bredl?

Well with the tax return season coming around I had abit of extra money coming my way and an empty tub in my BP rack. I have been wanting to fill.


Rather than get another BP though I really have been wanting to branch out. So I was wondering can Woma or Bredl Be kept comfortably in a rack setup for BP's?

I have worried Bredl's may be to big, so I was leaning woma, but if the size is right I'd like to get a nice bredl's.


Also anyone know where one could find some really attractive specimen for sale?

I really love the Woma's.... That is just me though.

They are both very attractive. And from some of the reading I have done I know a woma wouldn't outgrow the BP rack...I think.


But I'm not sure about bredl's. I adore there look but I don't have a wealth of knowledge about them.

I found that they weren't to bad to take care of and fairly hardy, but I personally think that they will be to big for your bp rack.

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Originally Posted by dragonboy4578

I found that they weren't to bad to take care of and fairly hardy, but I personally think that they will be to big for your bp rack.

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Just the bredl's or both? I heard bredl's only get about 6 feet but I dunno how true that is.

Any good caresheets cage recommendations for them? Some reading material on woma or Bredl's?

The bredl's, sorry for that. I have never owned a woma, but I want one. I really don't know any great care sheets, but if you do a google search you should be able to find a good one.

Yeah I guess they (Bredli) need something more like 4x2x4. It's a shame cause I really would like one someday but I'm not sure I could create the thermal gradient without a rack.


Hmmmmm I guess I'll need to think about that. Tips are of course welcome.

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Originally Posted by Seru1

It's a shame cause I really would like one someday but I'm not sure I could create the thermal gradient without a rack.

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Plastic professional caging keeps temps and humidity just fine.

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Originally Posted by cinderbird

Plastic professional caging keeps temps and humidity just fine.

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Even in a 70/74 degree Room? What do you use Ceramic Heater or underbelly?

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Originally Posted by Seru1

They are both very attractive. And from some of the reading I have done I know a woma wouldn't outgrow the BP rack...I think.


But I'm not sure about bredl's. I adore there look but I don't have a wealth of knowledge about them.

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A woma will outgrow a 41qt rack - if that's what you have.

They are fairly active and an adult will make use of every square inch of a 4x2 cage.

I have adult Bredls, and they would be too large for a ball rack.

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Originally Posted by Seru1

Even in a 70/74 degree Room? What do you use Ceramic Heater or underbelly?

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A radiant heat panel would work perfectly in an enclosure in a room with your temps.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

A woma will outgrow a 41qt rack - if that's what you have.

They are fairly active and an adult will make use of every square inch of a 4x2 cage.

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Yeah I have a CB 70 from reptile basics and the tubs are about 30.6 quarts.

Thanks for the input skip! I guess That last slot on the rack won't be useable for either!

Perhaps a new cage is in order.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

A radiant heat panel would work perfectly in an enclosure in a room with your temps.

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Thanks! I appreciate the input, any recommendations about who to go through? I have worked with Reptile basics before. But I am not sure to buy. I have found some woma I like so If I can find a good cage I will probably pull the trigger once it's set up.


By the way I am definatly a buyer not a builder :rofl:



Thanks again everyone for all the help!:gj:

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

A woma will outgrow a 41qt rack - if that's what you have.

They are fairly active and an adult will make use of every square inch of a 4x2 cage.

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Ditto. I was going to say the same thing, I wouldn't put an adult woma in anything smaller than a 4x2.

I have a trio of Woma's in a RB cb70 and they are smart as a cobra and kept getting out and they were a bit cramped in there. I would say a show tank is the way to so with either of the snakes you have asked about

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Originally Posted by Royal Morphz

I have a trio of Woma's in a RB cb70 and they are smart as a cobra and kept getting out and they were a bit cramped in there. I would say a show tank is the way to so with either of the snakes you have asked about

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Thanks tim and main!

Now all I gotta do is find the right cage. Though I do wonder if I couldn't keep a 2010 Woma in the CB-70 for atleast 4 or 5 months.

Cages are always what I struggle on I never know what to buy.

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Originally Posted by Seru1

Yeah I have a CB 70 from reptile basics and the tubs are about 30.6 quarts.

Thanks for the input skip! I guess That last slot on the rack won't be useable for either!

Perhaps a new cage is in order.




Thanks! I appreciate the input, any recommendations about who to go through? I have worked with Reptile basics before. But I am not sure to buy. I have found some woma I like so If I can find a good cage I will probably pull the trigger once it's set up.


By the way I am definatly a buyer not a builder :rofl:



Thanks again everyone for all the help!:gj:

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Too bad you don't live closer - I have a spare 4x2x15" cage (repti-racks) laying around that I would let go cheap.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Too bad you don't live closer - I have a spare 4x2x15" cage (repti-racks) laying around that I would let go cheap.

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That is to bad cause I could make good use of those ;) .


Oh well maybe I can look at buying new ones of those? I assume Repti-racks is a company.

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Originally Posted by Seru1

Even in a 70/74 degree Room? What do you use Ceramic Heater or underbelly?

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I currently have a bearded dragon in it, so its got the UVB lights and a basking light, but it has a spot for heat tape. Almost everything in my collection has underbelly heat through flexwatt (except one rack that has back heat). If the flex wasn't enough I'd grab a radient heat panel. No basking lights for snakes since they can actually touch them.

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Originally Posted by Seru1

Thanks! I appreciate the input, any recommendations about who to go through? I have worked with Reptile basics before. But I am not sure to buy. I have found some woma I like so If I can find a good cage I will probably pull the trigger once it's set up.

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Sure, there are tons of companies out there that make cages and RHPs. I personally have been going with Repti-Racks for cages and Reptile Basics for RHPs. If you do go with a Repti-Racks cage, make sure to add two more vents to the back. The two included are not enough.

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Originally Posted by Wh00h0069

Sure, there are tons of companies out there that make cages and RHPs. I personally have been going with Repti-Racks for cages and Reptile Basics for RHPs. If you do go with a Repti-Racks cage, make sure to add two more vents to the back. The two included are not enough.

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47" x 23" x 12" Good? The price looks good but I can't see the options to add vents and I dunno how to attach a radient heat panel. I'll probably call them monday.

thanks again everybody. If this works out Maybe I can get more into morelia. Though I guess Bredli and carpet might need bigger than this since they climb.

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Originally Posted by Seru1

47" x 23" x 12" Good? The price looks good but I can't see the options to add vents and I dunno how to attach a radient heat panel. I'll probably call them monday.

thanks again everybody. If this works out Maybe I can get more into morelia. Though I guess Bredli and carpet might need bigger than this since they climb.

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The panel screws to the ceiling- takes about 5 minutes to do. Repti-Racks sells Pro-Products RHPs which they will install for you.

The only problem with Repti-Racks is the lead time.............as for adding vents, call Steve at R-R and just ask him to add the extra vents.

Womas are very curious and will nose, nudge and mess with heating elements. A CHE with a heat guard will take up most of the cage. The good thing about a RHP is that the snake can't burn itself on one.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

The panel screws to the ceiling- takes about 5 minutes to do. Repti-Racks sells Pro-Products RHPs which they will install for you.

The only problem with Repti-Racks is the lead time.............as for adding vents, call Steve at R-R and just ask him to add the extra vents.

Womas are very curious and will nose, nudge and mess with heating elements. A CHE with a heat guard will take up most of the cage. The good thing about a RHP is that the snake can't burn itself on one.

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I'll make sure to use an RHP then, thanks for all the help guys.

Say out of curiosity. Can you Define CHE and Lead time?

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Originally Posted by Seru1

I'll make sure to use an RHP then, thanks for all the help guys.

Say out of curiosity. Can you Define CHE and Lead time?

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Ceramic Heat Element.

Time from when you place your order to when you get your cage - in the case of R-R, two months or more.

Morelia, just my opinion. I want a bredili myself. Size is the right thing to consider tho.

As a side note, think I could keep a young Woma in a BP rack while I waited a few months on the new cage?


I am assuming yes but I like the input.

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Originally Posted by Seru1

As a side note, think I could keep a young Woma in a BP rack while I waited a few months on the new cage?


I am assuming yes but I like the input.

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Depends on the size of the young woma.

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Originally Posted by Skiploder

Depends on the size of the young woma.

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The one I am looking at is a 2010 female. It seems like a BP tub would be adequate for atleast 4 months while the new cage came. Am I wrong?

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Originally Posted by Seru1

The one I am looking at is a 2010 female. It seems like a BP tub would be adequate for atleast 4 months while the new cage came. Am I wrong?

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Or longer.............

I have been reading that 40% humidity is optimal. Alabama being pretty humid we normally hit closer to 50 sometimes 60.

Any thoughts on how to keep humidity down or is 60% humidity nothing to fret over?