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  • 03-10-2011, 03:36 PM
    Kymberli
    I need everyone's opinons!
    I've asked this before in the forum but did not get responses. I have also asked a few more knowledgeable sources and received very conflicting opinions. :/
    So, I apologize for asking again, but I would really appreciate everyone's opinions before I do anything, so I'll try one more time!

    I have a 48" x 16" x 14" tank that I've recently modified to fit a plexiglass hinged double door onto. Now, I have already made the divider but have yet to install it because I keep going back and forth on this matter.
    I understand a 4' tank is big even for a full grown bp, but it was free so I've worked with what I have!
    My question, would dividing it into two 24" x 16" x 14" (w x d x h) tanks be much too small for a grown BP?

    My current BP is +/-30", male, approx. 2yrs old. I'm purchasing another towards the end of this year. So, should I go ahead and divide this tank to eventually use for two BPs, or should I just divide it into a 36" long tank and only use it for my male?

    Thanks for your input!
  • 03-10-2011, 04:51 PM
    blushingball419
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    I would divide it into a 36in tank. Most people recommend 41 quart tubs for adult bps, which are approx 34x16x6. So I would say that 24x16x14 would be a bit small for an adult as far as length goes. Kind of annoying to feel like you're wasting space, but you could always use it if you happen to get a baby bp I suppose.

    Just my opinion :)
  • 03-10-2011, 05:55 PM
    Kymberli
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    Thanks for the reply :) That's what I've been leaning towards, I'd rather have wasted space and him have adequate space. Just wanted to make sure before I seal the divider in! Hopefully by the time I get my next I'll be able to purchase a rack as well.
  • 03-10-2011, 05:58 PM
    BLOCK 213
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    I would leave it at 48 and fill it with hides and plants (fake), maybe also black out the back and sides.
    My son keeps his BP in a similar sized vivarium with no problems
    Keep temps and humidity at the correct levels, and you should be OK.
    By the way, I keep my Royals in both vivs and tubs, both succesfully
  • 03-10-2011, 06:23 PM
    jben
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kymberli View Post
    would dividing it into two 24" x 16" x 14" (w x d x h) tanks be much too small for a grown BP?

    It depends on his size (grams) and behavior , generally males are kept in 28 qt tubs and the dims are approximately 24*16*6 so the only difference is on height. I would say that it would be ok to split the tank. I keep all my males in 28qt tubs and they eat like pigs.


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  • 03-10-2011, 06:27 PM
    Johan
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    I'd leave the tank as is and just fill the extra space with scenery. You will need two homes anyways because you will want to quarantine any new snakes :) gl
  • 03-10-2011, 06:59 PM
    Kymberli
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    The only reason I wouldn't want to put him straight into a 4' long viv is because he's been in a small, 10gallon and I don't want to stress him out with such a drastic change. BTW, I know the 10gallon is very small for him.. It's just what he came in when I rescued him, so I'm trying to finish his new home asap.

    Oh and thank you for mentioning the quarantine, I actually have a seperate enclosure already for that :) I know it is of utmost importance!

    I think I'll divide it giving him a 36" long area, then depending on how big he gets possibly remove the divider in a couple years. I'm not sure of his weight, I haven't been able to purhase a scale but he is in fact very under weight.. been slowly gaining weight since I brought him home.

    All of your input is greatly appreciated! :)
  • 03-10-2011, 07:01 PM
    Alexandra V
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    As has already been said, that's a teeny bit on the small side, so you could maybe make the tank into one bigger and one smaller enclosure, or you could just fill it up with decorations/hides and black out the sides.
  • 03-10-2011, 07:19 PM
    Kymberli
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alexandra V View Post
    As has already been said, that's a teeny bit on the small side, so you could maybe make the tank into one bigger and one smaller enclosure, or you could just fill it up with decorations/hides and black out the sides.

    Yeah, I assumed it was on the small side.. Just wanted everyone's opinions because I've seen extremely conflicting preferences on enclosure size. I think I've officially decided on 36" long and the extra space will just "be there" lol. I don't want to keep it at 48" because I would have to add things throughout it to "clutter" it.. which would make cleaning day unnecessarily difficult.
  • 03-10-2011, 09:14 PM
    angllady2
    It is of course your decision. But I keep my adult males in tubs with the exact same floor space as if you divided the tank in half, and they do fine. Since males do not generally get as big as females, it is easier to keep them in smaller enclosures.

    One thing to be aware of, in moving from such a cramped space, he may not appreciate the larger quarters at first and might go off food. I know my guys did when I made the switch from much too small tubs to appropriate sized ones. All you can do is wait it out.

    Gale
  • 03-10-2011, 09:28 PM
    Kymberli
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    It is of course your decision. But I keep my adult males in tubs with the exact same floor space as if you divided the tank in half, and they do fine. Since males do not generally get as big as females, it is easier to keep them in smaller enclosures.

    One thing to be aware of, in moving from such a cramped space, he may not appreciate the larger quarters at first and might go off food. I know my guys did when I made the switch from much too small tubs to appropriate sized ones. All you can do is wait it out.

    Gale

    I'd be concerned if he went off feed right now. When I "rescued" him he was severely under weight, almost looked like a hatchling but he's 2yrs old. He's gained a lot of weight since I got him but he's still so skinny I wouldn't want him to go off feed even for a few weeks :/ Would it be best to keep him where he is until he's gained a little more weight or should I move him asap?
  • 03-10-2011, 09:54 PM
    blushingball419
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    Yeah, I looked at his pictures and he is a bit underweight. Even though a 10 gallon is really small for a bp his size, if he seems comfortable right now and is on a good feeding schedule, I would say to keep him where he is for a couple more weeks. The most important thing is that he gets up to a healthy weight, and a lot of bps freak out as soon as you change anything major about their environment. Some don't care, but I agree, the last thing you need is for that to happen.

    Oh, and it's good that you're already thinking about quarantine :gj: I realized I should have mentioned it right after I posted haha
  • 03-10-2011, 10:25 PM
    Kymberli
    Re: I need everyone's opinons!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blushingball419 View Post
    Yeah, I looked at his pictures and he is a bit underweight. Even though a 10 gallon is really small for a bp his size, if he seems comfortable right now and is on a good feeding schedule, I would say to keep him where he is for a couple more weeks. The most important thing is that he gets up to a healthy weight, and a lot of bps freak out as soon as you change anything major about their environment. Some don't care, but I agree, the last thing you need is for that to happen.

    Oh, and it's good that you're already thinking about quarantine :gj: I realized I should have mentioned it right after I posted haha

    Yeah, I agree 10gallon is way too small, I can't even fit two hides in it. But like you said, eating is more important. He's doubled in size since I brought him home which was a little over one month ago, so he's on the right track! Poor thing was being fed medium mice, half the size of his girth at the widest point, and he rarely accepted them because he was in a dry, cold enclosure with stuck shed everywhere. When I brought him home I felt like he'd snap in half just holding him, absolutely no muscle! I upgraded him to rat pups last night, which already looks like he'll need bigger meals than that, but he doesn't like them. I had to "scent" it with a mouse to get him to eat it.

    And yeah, I thought ahead on the whole quarantine thing! :)
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