Is it a good trade?

Well I got offered a female 09 100% het clown girl 900 grams and a proven breeder male double het clown albino male for my female 1700 gram spider and 400 gram male lesser.


I currently have
1.0 clown 400 grams
0.2 66% clown 300+ grams
0.1 66% clown 1700+ grams
0.1 100% clown 900 grams
0.1 pastel 1200 grams
0.1 lemon blast 700 grams
0.2 normal 1700+ grams
1.0 pastel yellow belly 200+ grams
1.0 pewter 300+ grams

Can you guarantee the genetics of the Hets?

I'd be VERY wary...

Normals look just like hets unless you can trust the source.

As stated above - But, it's a good trade, that is if they are truly het. Make sure you trust the person!

Yeah I trust him the 100% het female I got from him with paperwork. He is well known if fuana classified and has very good rep.

Good trade yes, but as stated on het's you have to trust. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-signs002.gif

And he produced them himself

Looks like you have a lot of clown stuff going currently.. At the end of the day you have to ask yourself what do you want to create moving forward. what is going to make you happy?

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From a value standpoint I think you come out with the short end of the stick. Plus you've already got plenty of het clown females. I personally wouldn't give up a breeder sized morph female, and would wait for a pair of brand-spankin' new 2011 double het albino clowns.

As for the trade, having a 100% guarantee on the genetics, I say its not bad.

Checkin your current collection, you already have a handful of poss het clowns and a 100% het. Its not bad adding another het female and a proven het male to go w/ it, that is if you really intend on having a sure shot in producing a visual clown. But considering the other morphs that you have, you can produce other awesome combos that you can eventually trade up for a visual clown in the future. Try to think of this, pewter x spider, pastel yb x spider.. the list goes on..

Would I do it...nope...

The demand for double het males really isn't high...I'm sure you could find someone with an extra or few extra that they're having trouble getting rid of. No one wants a male without a female. I'd say its a great trade for the other guy...not too great for you...

Shouldent I also put in mind what if my poss hets don't prove out for me.

Since you have a male clown and a 100% het clown female I'd be looking long and hard at trading for or purchasing a co-dom het clown female :)

*not just because I'm making co-dom hets either* :P

I wouldn't do it. You have a breedable female spider...with all of the awesome spider combos out there...I would keep her! I love clowns, but I still think you should keep the spider.

Am I the only one who thinks breeding a female at 900 is irresponsible?
Was she 900 when she laid last year, or is she 900 now?

Nobody said the het has ever been breed. The double het is proven not the 900 gram het.

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Originally Posted by asixtwo

Am I the only one who thinks breeding a female at 900 is irresponsible?
Was she 900 when she laid last year, or is she 900 now?

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Re-read the post...I think you read it wrong?

Sounds like a fantastic deal, I'd jump on it...

If I was the other party.

Doesn't even out in my eyes, I wouldn't do it.

1) You have no use for the male double het.

2) The female het clown "may" be up to breeding size next year.

3) The female spider "is" up to breeding size now (I would assume you are already pairing her up).

4) The male lesser might be breedable now.

5) You'd be taking away 2 genes out of your collection that you will have to purchase again down the road if you want them back in.


This looks to me like it isn't even close to being an even swap. Breed your spider female and use her offspring to buy what you really want (which probably isn't another het clown female and double het male).

Well we got another deal going on it will be the lesser male plus cash for the female het clown and I'll keep my spider female. All I have to do now is get the money. What do you guys think of this one thanks

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Originally Posted by Orlandoflor

Well we got another deal going on it will be the lesser male plus cash for the female het clown and I'll keep my spider female. All I have to do now is get the money. What do you guys think of this one thanks

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I think its pretty much impossible to give any feedback on that without a specification of what the cash amount is.

The original trade falls short for me. I understand a 900g 100% het clown female that might go next year is valuable, she just might very well go off feed and not be capable. A double het male is pointless without the female, and considering you already have a clown male, he serves no purpose. To get an albino clown you'll need to drop a lot more to get the females as they are probably 10 times more valuable when dealing with doublehets. It seems like you want to focus on your clown project so a straight trade for the spider female and het clown female with some cash I suppose will work. Although I find a breeder size female always more useful.