Paradox Albino Pied Ball Python

Just got a newsletter from Royal Constrictor Designs, as I am sure some of you did as well. But for those that did not, they had this hatch today. DYING to see more pics of it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnpQmzibo2I

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Originally Posted by BroknBusted

Just got a newsletter from Royal Constrictor Designs, as I am sure some of you did as well. But for those that did not, they had this hatch today. DYING to see more pics of it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnpQmzibo2I

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Amazing! Thanks for sharing :)

Regards,

B

Wow! All his hard work has paid off:D

Very cool.... Thanks for the post....:gj:

Nice...cant wait to see it out of the egg.

Wow,

The odds gods made him wait but that is a stunning little face. :D

Can't wait to see the rest of it. :banana:


dr del

wow...amazing doesn't even being to describe it.

Thank you for sharing.

Gratz to Garrick!

Cannot wait to see that little guy out!

sent from my EVO

Garrick is a great guy and really knows his stuff. Glad he finally hit those odds.

wow I was just thinking about getting a pied to start that process with mine! Seeing that makes me want to even more!!

That is SICK.

Absolutely unbelievable....I can't wait to see that beauty. Thanks for sharing.

Yes, I got the newsletter in my email earlier today and checked it out, very neat!

That's just awesome!! I'm totally thrilled for Garrick!! :sunny: Can't wait to see more pics of that little beauty!

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Originally Posted by koloo921

Wow! All his hard work has paid off:D

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Don't you mean Pied off? :P

just out of curiosity what makes a paradox a paradox? ?? still a little confused on that topic.

I BELIEVE it is due to the black on his head he said in the video.

Yes, that is paradox.

More specifically paradox causes patches of normal pattern.

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Originally Posted by LizardPants

Yes, that is paradox.

More specifically paradox causes patches of normal pattern.

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Is it always normal ball python? I've heard the theory is that it is caused by twins that have fused in the egg(Happens with humans as well) and it can be frustrating as sometimes the normal/het in the snake is the one that gets the reproductive organs, meaning a less breedable ball python. But has it ever been shown that a non normal looking snake(aka other morph) got the funky patches? I've just never seen it, it always seems to be a normal or a het!

Holy cow that thing is awesome!!!

He has pictures of it out of the egg! http://www.royalconstrictordesigns.com/

WOW! Ok, so how long before I can get one? So I HAVE to ask, what would something like that sell for ( doubt that he would be selling it )?

:O man oh man oh man!

Its sooooo cool!!! And its crazy how its eye stripe is albino and goes right through the paradox spot...and its HIGH white!! Congrats to him!

wow! cant wait to see more!

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Originally Posted by BroknBusted

WOW! Ok, so how long before I can get one? So I HAVE to ask, what would something like that sell for ( doubt that he would be selling it )?

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To me it would be priceless :D.

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Originally Posted by jsmorphs2

To me it would be priceless :D.

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I agree. However, anything at this point above the $250 range is way to much for me! Anyone have a pied for sale for that amount by the way :rolleyes:

I am just blown away by how many variations can come from breeding different morphs. And somehow, I bet we haven't seen the tip of the iceburg yet.

Yeah saw this today! haha just want to see it out of the egg

Wow... that snake couldn't get much better looking. Forkin' amazing. Makes me want to start an albino pied project... LOL.

Regards,

B

That is one of those snakes that I would of loved to see in a med white.. so you can get more spoches of the peid albino mix.. but oh my god.. that is one amazing snake..


Kinda has a pirate look to it.. lol

In answer to the whole Paradox thing.

There seems to be two main theories. One says Paradox markings are caused by a "short-circuiting" of the genes for lack of a better term. Basically to me this is what happens in this case:

We all know albinism is reduced melanin production. Hence the yellow and white snake. To me a paradox spot is caused when some of the color producing genes go haywire and forget their job. It seems to me you most often see patches of normal coloration in a morph, so I think my theory has a little merit. It is not believed to be genetic, although some claim to have selectively bred to produce more Paradoxes.

In the case of the Chimera, it is believed that two separate fertilized ova join during development and become a single animal that carries the genes for both. There is a "Paradox Spied" out there that I am almost positive will turn out to be a true Chimera. Half of it's head is normal, the other half spider. Right down to one normal eye and one spider eye.

This one I believe to be a simple paradox, even though it has the normal coloration over part of it's head, both eyes are ruby. That tells me it's an albino.

All that aside, it's a magnificent snake and I am so glad his patience paid off.

Gale

thanks! that cleared a bit up for me! :)

Great explination! Thank you!

Here is the "paradox spied" Gale mentioned above. The photos were taken by Steve Roussis who produced this snake.

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...adoxSpied1.jpg

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...adoxSpied2.jpg

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p..._2sml-med1.jpg

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Originally Posted by angllady2

In answer to the whole Paradox thing.

There seems to be two main theories. One says Paradox markings are caused by a "short-circuiting" of the genes for lack of a better term. Basically to me this is what happens in this case:

We all know albinism is reduced melanin production. Hence the yellow and white snake. To me a paradox spot is caused when some of the color producing genes go haywire and forget their job. It seems to me you most often see patches of normal coloration in a morph, so I think my theory has a little merit. It is not believed to be genetic, although some claim to have selectively bred to produce more Paradoxes.

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Actually, this theory MAY have more merit than you think. :gj:

In other species, there can apparently be a sort of "return to function" mutation than can occur in which the mutated gene regains function in that one spot. (Kinda sorta the exact opposite of your description -- although your description could also explain other manifestations of paradox.) The example that our genetics prof gave was a white cat who was developing black spots later in life.

Unfortunately, though, that works great to explain albino paradoxes (albinos with patches of normal color), but I'm less sure it can explain things like the paradox spied. My theory is that the spider pattern (and many other pattern mutations) are caused by defects and disorders of neural crest cell migration, and it's harder for me to picture, on a molecular level, how one or two patches on an animal with that sort of mutation could "go normal" when they whole system is defective.

My thinking on this is that most of them are probably chimeras ... However, there's no reason to think that some other "paradoxes" couldn't have been formed via other mechanisms.


.... (Also, boy I hope it might be possible to select for higher probability of "paradoxing," because those paradoxes you guys are all posting are NEAT!)

Congrats Garrick. Awesome snake. Let me know if you get tired of looking at it,...I'll take it off your hands.;)

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Originally Posted by Dave Green

Here is the "paradox spied" Gale mentioned above. The photos were taken by Steve Roussis who produced this snake.

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...adoxSpied1.jpg

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...adoxSpied2.jpg

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p..._2sml-med1.jpg

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That has to be the wierdest head markings that I have seen on any royal python bar none but it is kind of cute. I can't help wondering if the 'normal' half will be more than skin deep & would love to know if it has a wobble or not.

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Originally Posted by yardy

That has to be the wierdest head markings that I have seen on any royal python bar none but it is kind of cute. I can't help wondering if the 'normal' half will be more than skin deep & would love to know if it has a wobble or not.

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When it comes to a wobble it doesn't spin or corkscrew at all it merely looks at me with a slightly tilted head.

Back to Garrick's albino pied...awesome snake and an awesome accomplishment.