Now this is weird....

I thought I was going crazy for the past week. I thought I had a blue baby, then I thought maybe black, then I thought some weird version of black brown gray. Now I'm really confused! This baby has a different colored head than its body! :rolleye2:

Hopefully you can see it, it's the baby on the right.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/005-4.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/007-3.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/009-3.jpg

Cute :love:
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/004-5.jpg

I have no idea what it is.
But thats cool! The color gets darker as it goes down its back.

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Originally Posted by DZ Reptiles

I have no idea what it is.
But thats cool! The color gets darker as it goes down its back.

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Oh good you can see it! It's so weird! Her back is black like her sister, but in the close ups of their heads you can see how different her head color is. Some sort of gray/brown color. I hope she keeps it, she's pretty neat!

That would be cool if she keeps it, maybe pass it on to her babies???

Thats is cool! You just made a Gradient Hooded Rat! :banana:

It's like a Hooded Calico!!
How cool.

If it's not just an effect of molting, then what you have is likely a somatic mutation. It can show up in lots of different patterns of random colours together, where the animal is partially one colour, and partially another (a good example would be a lab that has a somatic mutation, causing it to be part yellow lab, and part black lab).

If it grows out, then it was probably just molting.
If it stays, I say somatic mutation.
Somatic mutations are NOT passed on to the offspring, unfortunately!

Her head has been a different color since she was a fuzzy. I was wondering if she would loose the color. I suppose we'll see. That sucks that it doesn't get passed on!

Very cool! It looks like a blue merle. Definelty keep us updated as it grows.

It's weird that the lighter spot is patchy. How many were in the litter?
You should check the others for light, and dark spots closely. :)

Also blazes like possum faces tend to lighten the color of the rat.
My blue possum faces are noticeably lighter in color than my regular blues.

What was the breeding that made these babies?

An example of what a possum face does to color.

Sibling agouti double hets, they are het blue and het dwarf.
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT2970.jpg

Even among possum faces the color change is variable...
Blue sibs
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...ebluegirls.jpg

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Originally Posted by Rhasputin

It's weird that the lighter spot is patchy. How many were in the litter?
You should check the others for light, and dark spots closely. :)

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I'm not positive, I got rid of all but three.... I'm thinking there were 11 in that litter. Most were just plain 'ol black hooded rats which is what mom usually makes.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

Also blazes like possum faces tend to lighten the color of the rat.
My blue possum faces are noticeably lighter in color than my regular blues.

What was the breeding that made these babies?

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It was an albino female I've had forever, she usually just makes black hooded. The male is my 'wide stripe' dumbo-I'll put a picture of the baby that looks like him up.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

An example of what a possum face does to color.

Sibling agouti double hets, they are het blue and het dwarf.
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/PICT2970.jpg

Even among possum faces the color change is variable...
Blue sibs
http://i915.photobucket.com/albums/a...ebluegirls.jpg

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Oh yeah that blue is a lot lighter!

I call the dad a 'wide stripe'. He has made a ton of babies with this pattern, some are better than others. He doesn't have any markers on his face, but he must carry the possum face. I'm trying to make some different colored 'wide stripes' but so far I've only been able to get beige crappy 'wide stripes'.

This is the baby with the 'wide stripe' not the best I've gotten-what the dad looks like
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/004-6.jpg

The other baby in the litter
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/006-3.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/007-4.jpg

The one in question
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/005-5.jpg

Together
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/008-3.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/009-4.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/010-2.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/011-3.jpg

Here's a capped wide stripe I just got!!! How cool is that?!
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/012-2.jpg

And she's a possum face!
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rats/013-3.jpg

To be technical capped rats have no color on their body just on top of their heads ;)
Mis-marked, variegated, I'm not sure they designation for that type(too early in my day) lol

I like wide striped hooded rats, I have several in my colony.

That's an adorable little baby! I had a mama rat that was very similar...except her head was dark and by the time it got to around the base of her tail, the color had turned into a light brownish color. She's cool looking, but it has never been passed to any of her babies.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

To be technical capped rats have no color on their body just on top of their heads ;)
Mis-marked, variegated, I'm not sure they designation for that type(too early in my day) lol

I like wide striped hooded rats, I have several in my colony.

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I know they can't be both, but I'm calling her that :P Her mom was a capped and her dad was the wide stripe. It's a pretty sweet pattern!

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That's an adorable little baby! I had a mama rat that was very similar...except her head was dark and by the time it got to around the base of her tail, the color had turned into a light brownish color.
She's cool looking, but it has never been passed to any of her babies.

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Yeah I've had some browns and blacks do that. That momma of yours sounds really cool! The only thing with the blacks, are that a rat can't be pure black for some reason. They always have speckling of white/gray/brown. So I think the black rats with the brown by the base of the tail is because of that. IDK for sure though.

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

Her mom was a capped and her dad was the wide stripe. It's a pretty sweet pattern!

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I believe her pattern is caused by the high white gene which means if you raise her to breed you'll want to breed her to a self, hooded or berkshire to rule out making mega colon babies ;)
Something that doesn't have a pattern caused by the high white gene.

I love breeding blazed girls just like her because they make more cute blazes :P

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

I believe her pattern is caused by the high white gene which means if you raise her to breed you'll want to breed her to a self, hooded or berkshire to rule out making mega colon babies ;)
Something that doesn't have a pattern caused by the high white gene.

I love breeding blazed girls just like her because they make more cute blazes :P

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Other than the wide stripe boy I have two dalmatians, a hairless-not sure what color he would have been he's pink with black eyes, and no pattern, a possum faced capped hairless, and a standard capped. What would be the best to breed her to? I'm thinking one of the dalmatians because they are the closest I have to a hooded/berkshire. I haven't had to deal with mega colon yet thank heavens!

I can't believe how easily the blaze and possum face is passed on! They are the cutest things ever! I have a bunch of dumbo babies almost to weanling age. One of the girls has a really sweet pattern! YAY female dumbos finally!

I currently have a male albino blue when he was small he was awesome. He was a hooded albino. His head was light brown like a light colored ball python and his body stripe down his back was very thick and dark brown. But when he grew up he lost all his color now the only brown he has is at the base of the tail and the tip of the nose. I have him as a breeder now and gives me lots of nice babies.

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Originally Posted by Orlandoflor

I currently have a male albino blue when he was small he was awesome. He was a hooded albino. His head was light brown like a light colored ball python and his body stripe down his back was very thick and dark brown. But when he grew up he lost all his color now the only brown he has is at the base of the tail and the tip of the nose. I have him as a breeder now and gives me lots of nice babies.

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Strange because albino means it's a red eyed white rat, hooded albino? :confused:

Albino blue?

There's no such thing as an 'albino blue'.

Changing colours on rats is common though, it's called moulting, or 'roaning out'.

Here is a sister of that male I was talking about. Their mom was a hooded blue and dad was all blue. As you can see in the pic she is hooded and she has red eyes she been like this since she was born. I Have a litter that may be born in a week and I'll show you that there would be albino blues both parents are blue so all the babies will be blue then some will get the albino thing and for me none of the babies are all white they are hooded the only all white ones I had was my first litter.In in my first litter ever I had 2 all white albino blues 6 hooded albino blues and 3 normal blues. I don't know alot about rat genetics so forgive if I'm wrong.

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...1298738360.jpg

The picture shows what looks like a bareback blue rat, better pic would help.
Have a picture of the albino blue?

Theory since I've never made one or seen one:

It might be possible to have blue rats that carry the albino gene and then they breed and make all blues and some albino blues(never heard of such).
This "albino blue" would look like any other albino rat(white coat red eyes) but would be a blue rat also.
Bred to a blue rat that doesn't carry the albino gene you would then make all blues with an albino rat.
But how would you know it's a blue under that albino without making it yourself?

The pic above is my albino blue yeah I believe that both parents had the albino gene. The two pics below are two albino blues first pic is the same female from pic above and secound pic is it's brother my male albino blue
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...1298741551.jpg
http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...1298741530.jpg

The Weird thing is that my albino blue male got that albino blue girl from pic and I though that all babies would be albino blues cause of the parents but when she had her babies none of them were albino they were just regular hooded blues.

Hmmm, pictures are still washed out but I'll give this a go.

The first picture looks like a red eyed blue bareback rat.

That last picture looks like a pink eyed blue point Siamese rat, nothing albino about him.
He has dark points(nose and butt) and a blueish tint to the fur coat?
I produce lots of Siamese and in all 3 eye colors.

http://www.afrma.org/rataocp.htm

It's weird these two are brother and sister and all if it's other sibling all look different. So can you tell me why when I paired these two up all I got were blues and none were the kinds you just said and I know the two in the pics are blues cause the patents of these two were blue.

Your playing with recessive red eye traits, there is pink eye, red eye and ruby eye.
I do not know the genetics of your rats and can only guess your playing with different colored red eye traits.
I have never heard of a albino coming from a blue to blue breeding and I've never made an albino with my Siamese rats and they carry all three red eye colors.
My blues also carry ruby eye and they only make more ruby eyed blues, no albinos.



sorry to hijack the thread :oops:

The red eye dilution, makes the blue look very light. It's got nothing to do with albino, which would turn your rat 100% white.