uth can any1 help ?

i have a wooden viv with slideing glass doors im going to buy a under tank heater and im going to put it outside of the viv. will i still need to plug it into a thermostat ? as some1 said as its a wood viv it wont let that much heat trow anyway ? and does any1 no the best uth to buy ?

my heat source is cerimic heat bulb my temps are 91.4 hot end 80.6 cool end will a uth make him 2 hot ? i want it so he digests his food better as hes a bit slow at digesting his food at the moment

I would have a thermostat on the UTH just to make sure the temp is not getting to high. You could always buy flex watt and put it under the tank, but you still need a thermostat.

Your temps sound good, although belly heat is preferred with ball pythons i would not trust a under tank heater on a wooden viv,thats a fire hazard! You will need a thermostat on a heating pad no matter what enclosure, because with out a thermostat the heating pad will still reach some pretty hot temps.

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Originally Posted by kasmiraross

my heat source is cerimic heat bulb my temps are 91.4 hot end 80.6 cool end will a uth make him 2 hot ? i want it so he digests his food better as hes a bit slow at digesting his food at the moment

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You Dont Really Need A Lamp You Will Only Need It If Its Hard For You To Keep Ambient Temperature. If The Lamp Is Giving Light To The Whole Viv Then It Will Make The Hot Side Hotter. I Use Zoo Med With A Ranco RTC Thermostat And Its Doing The Job.

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Originally Posted by LegitProblem

You Dont Really Need A Lamp You Will Only Need It If Its Hard For You To Keep Ambient Temperature. If The Lamp Is Giving Light To The Whole Viv Then It Will Make The Hot Side Hotter. I Use Zoo Med With A Ranco RTC Thermostat And Its Doing The Job.

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no i dont have a light just a cermic heat bulb with gaurd .

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Originally Posted by Strange_Evil

Your temps sound good, although belly heat is preferred with ball pythons i would not trust a under tank heater on a wooden viv,thats a fire hazard! You will need a thermostat on a heating pad no matter what enclosure, because with out a thermostat the heating pad will still reach some pretty hot temps.

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how else can i get belly heat ? would a uth be ok if it was only on when i was at home ? i need belly heat hes not digesting very well ?

Your temps are actually pretty good. They can take anywhere from 1 wk to 3 before they defecate depending on food size, temps etc. But
He should have no issues with digest at the moment. What is it that you mean hrs having problems digesting? I think you should switch from top heat to belly heat but I think having both might be a little over kill. And if you do add belly heat it shoukd be on a thermostat all the time. You could possibly put the uth on a ceramic tile and attatched it to the viv somehow.
Hope this helps.
Morgan

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how else can i get belly heat ? would a uth be ok if it was only on when i was at home ? i need belly heat hes not digesting very well ?

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Yes A UTH Is Okay But You Need A Thermostat To Prevent Any Fires And Prevent Your Snake From Burning You Can Go To ReptileBasics.com To Purchase A Thermostat.

Wood is a really good insulator so a UTH is unlikely to be very efficient I'd actually say your temps on the hot side are approaching too hot.

The issue is very very few people own an accurate thermometer 90% of the digital ones on the market can be as much as 2 degrees off up or down at 91.4 could be 89.4 or 93.4. Truly accurate digital ones do not use resistive sensors. That makes them quite pricey and typically are traceable and that requires a serial number.

What makes you think that he has problems digesting? Where is he typically found on the cold side or warm side?

There are heat mats that are regulated that can be placed inside the enclosure if you are dead set on changing it.

http://www.bigappleherp.com/Kane-Heat-Mats_2

They are quite large potentially too large and must be controlled with a thermostat and a proportional one is HIGHLY recommended! This is a costly operation for a problem that might not actually exist.

he takes between 4 to 6 weeks to poop witch worrys me alot as for a heat mat my vet says dont use them as they cause scale rot because it gets to moist under the heat mat ?

Ok never heard that did he intend a regulated mat or a human one? Not that it matters. 4-6 weeks isn't that abnormal. He is not a mammal. It sounds stupid to say and I am not making fun of you at all, we poor humans forget that sometimes if I didn't go in 3 weeks I'd need serious help. I have seen blood pythons go wayyy longer with no ill effects. If he is feeding well and there are no really odd lumps and bumps there is no problem not to worry. I have 8 and some go every few weeks and some it can be a few months. As long as they are normal looking around the vent (no large bulges) everything is generally good over heating the snake will not help it can cause dehydration and actually cause problems rather than help them.
Alex

I've used heat pads with numerous reptiles and I use them for 5 out of my 30 balls. I've never had an issue with them I use them outside of the cage with a thermostat. I don't think your snake has any issues digesting. It's quite normal for them to take a bit to poop. If he's dehydrated though it will take him a little longer to poop like that though. Ches are quite known for zapping the humidity right out of a viv though. This is why I like the belly heat. If he was having issues digesting you would fine bits of bone and other undigested peices of his food. Normally that is a problem with snakes that are too cold. Too hot could dehydrate him aswell. I would get belly heat on a tstat and try to keep his humidity up. Scale rot comes from bacteria and moisture in the cage which leads to a massive infection in the scales. If the cage is maintained correctly I don't think you'll have this problem. The main problems with heat pads is burns. That's why they should be on t stats. Hope this is helpful.
Morgan

right the reason i am very worried its a very long story here we go me and my partner rescued our bp in march he was a year old and he was under some1s fridge freezer for 4 weeks this person got hold of me trow a friend knowing i was a animal lover she said can you cum and get him or she was gong to put him outside so i went straight over there and got him . i got him home and toke him to the vet so this was in march he weighed 186 grams and was very dehydrated so i left him at the vets for 7 days an 7 nights . then he came home 2 days later he went all pink at first i thought he was shedding but to be on the safe side i toke him back to the vets . it turned out he had septicemia so he started treatment antibiotics fortem i think the name was correct me if im wrong . after 4 weeks he seemed ok for bout 4 months then he got it agen an has just finished a 6 week course of antibiotics and everything is ok so far i hope an prey .over the months my vet has bin trying to get the the bottom of why he keeps getting septicemia . shes dont bllod tests and stomach wash and a lung wash hes bin tested for a few disese but all coming back negitive ? hes going in 2 weeks for a culture test . so the reason i was worried about him digesting is becuz my vet said just like a humen if we dont digest our food properly then it lets of toxins into the body i was wondering if this is wats happend with my bp and these toxins are causeing septicemia ? so i thought if he digests his food quicker it mite help you mite all think im mad but it was just a thought . by the way iv now had him 11 months he now weighs 962 grams and is about 4 foot . he is in a wood viv with slideing glass doors its 4 foot long 2 foot high and 2 foot deep . my temps are 91.4 hot end 80.6 cool end and he is a very good eater . and i love him to bits and just want him to be ok . hes names rubin my the way . hes my lil fighter .

A wooden viv would benefit the most from a radiant heat panel I believe. There is no chance for fire with a fused RHP and they produce infrared heat. RHP's are mounted inside your viv and project the heat downward from the ceiling. They penetrate warmth deep into your snakes tissue, simulating the type of heat they would be getting in the wild. They create a warm side in your enclosure and additionally increase the overall ambient temp.

I've never used a rhp so I cannot comment on that. But it may prove to be effective. As for the septicemia not going for a while can cause problems like this. But its generally caused by impactions and if he's going to the bathroom he doesn't have an impaction. Possibly he has an internal infection that is causing the sep. Ive had balls that have taken just as long if not a little longer to go but we cannot compare the two. I would guess that hes dehydrated and this is why he's not
Going also maybe causing the sep. He could have a rupture of some sort in his bowel leaking nasty stuff also leading to sep. So you've got a few reasons this could be happening. in a normal bp with no traumas or issues 4-6 weeks shouldnt cause any issues. But we don't know his past so this could be a problem tracking down where this is coming from. I hope you find out why this is happening. Maybe he needs a stronger dose of meds or a different type of antibiotic. It's really hard to deal with a reoccurring problem like this I wish you the best.

yeah i just want to get to the bottom of it hes had a stomach wash witch came back as fine so about the leaking stuff i dont no ? its so stressful

That is really stressful and emotionally draining. I've had babies that have failed to thrive and you really want to do everything to help but sometimes they still don't make it. Unfortunately if it was like a small rupture in his lower gi tract it's going to be impossible to see without a necropsy. The huge thing that really blows is he was under a fridge and in an uncontrolled environment for god knows how long. So there is no background with him. That is going to make things extremely difficult. He could have eaten something that shouldn't have been eaten or a
Meal too large and damaged or torn part of his anything. I don't think it's as far up as his stomach bc the digestive fluids would be literally eating through him. But somesort of resistant reoccuring problem is
Happening. And it's very sad that both of you have to go through this. I hope that your vet keeps trying and I'm glad that he has a friend like you that won't give up on him.

yeah im going to have to just keep trying i just hope he will be ok cause hes my lil baby :snake:

Any update? How are things going with your kiddo?

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Any update? How are things going with your kiddo?

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he had his last injection today we now have to wait to weeks for the antibiotic to leave his body . then hes going back to have some more blood taken and a culture test and another lung wash so see wat happens . i will not give up tho :snake: will keep every1 updated