What is this???

My friend inherited a few ball morphs which 99% of them are obvious to the eye in what they are. However this one is different. I cannot make out if it is a mystic, reduced mojave, desert, or fire? Any Professional Guesses would be Super appreciated!

*** Head has NO BLUSHINGS, as well as the dorsal and saddles have no blushings.

I have 7 years experience with Bearded Dragons... But only 1 1/2 years with Balls.

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Cool looking thats what it is


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What ever it is ITS SWEET looking :gj:

Thats a beautiful snake ,Sure looking for to know what morph :rolleye2:!

high gold bp??

Pastel-calico?...

I have 1.1 fires. It looks alot like them in color but the pattern looks different....sure is sweet looking though!

Low white calico???

Hmm,

I suck at these kinds of questions but the head pattern looks interesting to me - could it have any enchi influence in it?


dr del

Thanks for the quick responses! What would I prove this out with as far as trying to prove out if the gene is dominant?

I have:

1.0 Bumblebee
1.0 Mojo

To pair it with.....

If there are better basic dominant pairings... PLEASE LET ME KNOW!

I would try the Bumble because if its a calico you should see it easely if you hatch a pastelcalico.

On the flip side....

If I bred her to a Pied MALE? Would that be similar to "BREEDING HER TO A NORMAL" and seeing if any babies came out looking like her and they would be 100% HET for Pied?

And if none of them looked like her, breed them back to her?

Or is the ...automatic breeding her to a Pied an EXTRA WAISTED STEP?

**** Is it better to prove her out as having a superform with another co-dom MORE WISE?

Just a hunch but I would pair it to the mojo. It dose'nt look like a fire at all to me, looks more mystic,special like. I don't see the calico at all there aren't any white markings, only really nice flames. Good luck

Do you have any belly shots?

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Do you have any belly shots?

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I dont but its a Clear belly. No markings at all, SOLID WHITE

Very interesting animal. Its like in between a mystic, harlequin, unique lookin yb, and an odd colored mojo. Any belly shots?

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Originally Posted by Pinoy Pythons

Very interesting animal. Its like in between a mystic, harlequin, unique lookin yb, and an odd colored mojo. Any belly shots?

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Clear belly, no markings at all or patterns. Just like a pastel.

i have a female very similar to that. and mine is a harlequin. some harlequins can be codominant some are recessive and some are flukes like a paradox.we got a bumble bee from mine lastv year and breeding it back to mom this year

You could breed it to a normal or another morph, it realy doesn't mater. I don't see how any pairing would be an "extra wasted" step? Unless you are thinking you can prove it out and make crosses to sell and make a fast buck? Whats wrong with taking your time and enjoying the thrill while you have it? You are the only one that has "that" snake so it's not like someone is going to beat you to the punch.

On a side not it isn't a Calico.

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Originally Posted by snakesRus

i have a female very similar to that. and mine is a harlequin. some harlequins can be codominant some are recessive and some are flukes like a paradox.we got a bumble bee from mine lastv year and breeding it back to mom this year

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What did you breed your harlequin to?

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

You could breed it to a normal or another morph, it realy doesn't mater. I don't see how any pairing would be an "extra wasted" step? Unless you are thinking you can prove it out and make crosses to sell and make a fast buck? Whats wrong with taking your time and enjoying the thrill while you have it? You are the only one that has "that" snake so it's not like someone is going to beat you to the punch.

On a side not it isn't a Calico.

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*Cheers* to that. Thanks for the reassurance. Just seeking out advice to see what an experienced snake breeder would do :)

If I bred her with a Mojo male.... and her gene is recessive....

I would get Mojo's and Normals?

Do I save all of the babies as "Possible HETS" and breed a Mojo or a Normal baby back to her to try to prove it as recessive?

If it proves out as recessive by breeding back her offspring to her... Then sell the babies as hets?

**** Someone on KS.com said that it is a rare morph called a SUNBALL. She sold one to Amir. She said she will dig up pictures of her "sunball" and send them to me. When she does I will post one, so you can compare.

bred her to male bumble bee

Very nice looking snake!!!

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hmm,

I suck at these kinds of questions but the head pattern looks interesting to me - could it have any enchi influence in it?

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This was my initial thought too. Maybe Enchi YB or Enchi Lesser (although the black seems too black to be a lesser).

Agreed on breeding her to a bumblebee if those are your two options. Whatever she is, it will pair very well with pastel, and hitting the trifecta would be an awesome animal.

I'd breed it to a pied and see if the trait carries over.
All babies would of course be at least 100% hets and hopefully you'd have your answer as to if the trait is genetic.

Cool looking dinker :gj:

A ?ball -look at her pattern in the 2nd and 4th picture, I thought you photoshopped the black '?' in her pattern. That's really cool! :P

Harlequin is the only thing that came to my mind right away.

I would think Harlequin but I'm still newer to the morphs. Good looking snake!

On a side note, if you ever want someone to come do photos, I don't charge people usually and I'd love to use the bounce flash to really get the colors to come out on the snake.

PM if you ever need my services. I've been dying to try out a light box.

contrast and flames says Yb to me
would still like to see a belly pic

I will have pics up this evening of the belly!