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  • 01-17-2011, 09:30 PM
    rdoyle
    feeding problem
    Ok here is the question. I have try 2 F/T mice on my 43 inc long BP he has not even looked at it. What I want to know should I try live mouse. He has not eaten 3 weeks. He shed last night. I am new to feeding Live.
  • 01-17-2011, 09:37 PM
    Emilio
    More info does he always eat FT for you? Some of mine take a couple days to wanna feed after a shed cycle.;)

    3 weeks is nothing to worry about especially coming off a shed.
  • 01-17-2011, 09:41 PM
    rdoyle
    I have had him for 2 weeks. the guy I got him from said that he eats both
  • 01-17-2011, 09:42 PM
    llovelace
    Try a live one, did the snake just go off feed, or did you just get it?
  • 01-17-2011, 09:44 PM
    llovelace
    ok, if he doesn't take live with the next feed, leave him completely alone for 7 days, just change out water & spot clean, then try feeding live. He ust may need some time to settle in.
  • 01-17-2011, 09:46 PM
    Emilio
    Re: feeding problem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rdoyle View Post
    I have had him for 2 weeks. the guy I got him from said that he eats both

    Alright let him be for a couple days and try a live mouse a little smaller than its girth( widest part of its body);) Be patient it is also getting use to its new surroundings don't hound it drop the mouse in turn off the light and get out for twenty minutes.
  • 01-17-2011, 09:46 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: feeding problem
    What is your husbandry like?

    Enclosure size?
    Temps? How do you measure them?
    Hides?
    Humidity? How do you measure it?
    Have you handled your BP?
  • 01-17-2011, 09:46 PM
    rdoyle
    OK thanks for the info
  • 01-17-2011, 10:56 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: feeding problem
    If he will supposedly take both, I would try a small rat that weighs about 60grams...
  • 01-17-2011, 11:47 PM
    rdoyle
    Well right now no is selling any small rats. Localy i mean I dont want to order a order of small rats and he not eat them. I just talk to the other owner and he feed him live.
  • 01-18-2011, 12:14 AM
    kasmiraross
    dont leave the rat alone with the snake
  • 01-18-2011, 12:35 AM
    rdoyle
    I know that.
  • 01-18-2011, 07:12 PM
    rdoyle
    Well He just eat a Live mouse. looks like I am going to be feeding live for now
  • 01-18-2011, 09:00 PM
    doctor patches
    sometimes they just need a little more action in their food than we can offer by "shaking" with tongs, ya know? there is no duplicating desperate flailing.

    also, no reason to avoid live feedings as long as you watch and have something handy to help you if you need to intervene. i use either a chopstick, or i have the screwdiver bit on my leatherman (always on my belt). just stick it in the mouth, or use to deflect scratching...whatever
  • 01-18-2011, 09:18 PM
    Trey Yeoman
    Re: feeding problem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patches152 View Post
    sometimes they just need a little more action in their food than we can offer by "shaking" with tongs, ya know? there is no duplicating desperate flailing.

    also, no reason to avoid live feedings as long as you watch and have something handy to help you if you need to intervene. i use either a chopstick, or i have the screwdiver bit on my leatherman (always on my belt). just stick it in the mouth, or use to deflect scratching...whatever

    just curious but like... when you intervene... arent you afraid of stressing the snake out to where it stops eating? OR the snake striking you cause its pissy? or does the snake pretty much ignore your intrusion because it is so focused on its prey?
  • 01-18-2011, 09:19 PM
    rdoyle
    I tryed the zomie thing it did not work heated it the head that did not work. Ext. I gress he just likes live food. I woke him up by petting him then I put that mouse in there he was on him like white on rice it was crazy. The guy i got him from is going to sell me some for a 1.00. I am going to get a 10 gallon tank. to keep some in So I dont have to go him ever week. How many can I keep in a 10 gallon. I dont want to be crurl to them. I going to feed and water them ect. while befor the are eating.
  • 01-18-2011, 09:26 PM
    doctor patches
    in a 10 gal tank you can prolly only get one. if you had a bigger tank you could get a few together. it's a touchy subject. as long as there's plenty of room for them to get away from one another, i don't see a problem. ideally, two hot hides, two cool hides, two water bowls, etc...
  • 01-18-2011, 09:28 PM
    llovelace
    Re: feeding problem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Trey Yeoman View Post
    just curious but like... when you intervene... arent you afraid of stressing the snake out to where it stops eating? OR the snake striking you cause its pissy? or does the snake pretty much ignore your intrusion because it is so focused on its prey?

    I use chopsticks to intervene, never had a snake do anything more but tighten their coil.

    a 10g tank can hold a few mice, just add a water dish & feed, you may have to change the water dish frequently
  • 01-18-2011, 09:31 PM
    doctor patches
    Re: feeding problem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Trey Yeoman View Post
    just curious but like... when you intervene... arent you afraid of stressing the snake out to where it stops eating? OR the snake striking you cause its pissy? or does the snake pretty much ignore your intrusion because it is so focused on its prey?

    generally if i have to intervene, it's because the snake's strike wasn't to the head or back of the neck. which allows the prey item to defend its self. they're preoccupied with subduing the prey item, don't even realize i'm there. but i'm used to being close to the snake while they feed. i present the prey (once they're of size to allow this) by the tail, and let the snake take it from my hand. this prevents the prey from attacking the snake prior to the strike, especially if i'm feeding in a tub and not in the open.
  • 01-18-2011, 09:36 PM
    doctor patches
    my bad, i thought the 10 gal was for snakes, not mice. yeah, you can pack mice in there.
  • 01-19-2011, 12:43 AM
    TomC
    Re: feeding problem
    I usually keep between 4 and 6 mice at a time in my 10 gallon tank. I gave them a little house a paper towel tube and an excersise wheel I figure they might as well enjoy there stay before they meet their end.

    If you get litter mates you should be fine but if you introduce male mice that are not litter mates they may fight.

    I usually get 4 to 6 and work my way down to none then buy 4 to 6 more litter mates and I have not had any problems yet.
  • 01-19-2011, 02:57 AM
    rdoyle
    Re: feeding problem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by patches152 View Post
    in a 10 gal tank you can prolly only get one. if you had a bigger tank you could get a few together. it's a touchy subject. as long as there's plenty of room for them to get away from one another, i don't see a problem. ideally, two hot hides, two cool hides, two water bowls, etc...

    I am talking about getting a 10 gallon tank to hold mice not BP. My BP is in a 20 long
  • 01-19-2011, 01:14 PM
    doctor patches
    Re: feeding problem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rdoyle View Post
    I am talking about getting a 10 gallon tank to hold mice not BP. My BP is in a 20 long

    yeah, i figured that out after i posted it. did you see my other reply?
  • 01-19-2011, 01:54 PM
    rdoyle
    Yea after I replied LOL
  • 01-19-2011, 02:32 PM
    doctor patches
    great minds...
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