Co-dom male or female?

Hey guys, if you were considering purchasing some ball python for breeding, would you go after a multi-morph male or female and why? Thanks!

male. there cheaper ready to breed faster and can be thrown to a bunch of females

If you are just starting out, getting the male first and some normal females would be the way to go. Then down the line add female morphs to the mix.

Both, of course a male will be ready sooner and breed to several females however morph females are essential for combos. :gj:

I'd try to get both. Though if I had to, I'd probably get a female first.

Females are the key to the supers, you can't make supers without females. I'd get a female and start getting her up to size, then you could buy a male the following year and they'd both be breeding size at the same time.

Most say get a male first, I would agree if you were getting a super form of whatever male morph. But lets say you just get a co-dom and breed him to a normal female, you'll have a 50/50 shot of getting said morph. But odds can be a pain, you might get 50/50 morphs, but sex ratios are goofed up, or good sex ratios but bad morph results. Even if you got a female in your first cross, you're still another few years from making a super.

And if I bought a female the same time you bought your male, I'm going to be making supers sooner than you.

Co-dom females are way underrated IMO, can't have enough of them. It's easy to come by breeding size males, or get male hatchlings to breeding size quickly. Not so much with females.

Ok, my options are killer bee male, or bumble bee female..

i would go with the killer bee.

oh, female is 08' about 850grams, male is 10' 350grams

Small 08, IMO. I would get the killer bee. And pickup a few normal female adults and put some size on them. Bees and pastels first year.

Oops sorry it's an 09' female. I'm leaning for the killer bee male as well. Last question. I know there's no standard but as far as prefs go is high yellow desirable? I see some killer bees that are very yellow and others almost a pink/creme color. Thanks!

An '09 female bee at 800g should be breedable for next year. Then you could save your money and get a breedable male morph to pair with her, maybe a cinnamon. Then you'd have a shot at making pewter bees, pewters, cinnabees, etc. Or get a butter/lesser: queen bees, lesser bees, pastel lessers, etc.

If you get the killer bee male and some normal females, you'll only be making bees and pastels. Nothing wrong with that, but that's it until you get some morph females. And even if you hold back a female pastel or bee, the only thing else you could make would be more killer bees. Like I said earlier, morph females are key to making the really cool stuff.

If it was me, I'd get the female bee. In the long run I think she'll be a better investment and give you a lot more potential. Just my 2¢

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Originally Posted by Blue Apple Herps

An '09 female bee at 800g should be breedable for next year. Then you could save your money and get a breedable male morph to pair with her, maybe a cinnamon. Then you'd have a shot at making pewter bees, pewters, cinnabees, etc. Or get a butter/lesser: queen bees, lesser bees, pastel lessers, etc.

If you get the killer bee male and some normal females, you'll only be making bees and pastels. Nothing wrong with that, but that's it until you get some morph females. And even if you hold back a female pastel or bee, the only thing else you could make would be more killer bees. Like I said earlier, morph females are key to making the really cool stuff.

If it was me, I'd get the female bee. In the long run I think she'll be a better investment and give you a lot more potential. Just my 2¢

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Thanks a ton guys! @Blue Apple Herps I hear ya, I thought that too, just some info, I have the following 2010's:
0.1 Super Pastel
0.1 Butter Pastel
0.1 Pinstripe
1.0 Pewter Bee

So I figured another male with some genes would be good, I ended up getting the male killer bee.. my plan is to try and find a female that would be ready maybe end of this year, maybe a pastel enchi or lesser etc.. and try to get the killer to breed with her, hes almost 400g and I think I can get him up to breeding size by the end of the year.. that sound about right?

Well, since you already have some nice females, you're on your way with that. Yes, you should be able to get the killer bee up to breeding size no problem (assuming he doesn't have any whacky feeding habits).