Hatchlings making their debut

Of the 12 good eggs, 8 have hatched and exited so far. Three more are pipped, and the last one appears to be dead in the egg I'm afraid...full pigmentation and everything, but no obvious movement and it just has that "feel" to it.

But anyway, we got three different looks out of this clutch. About half the reds are very, very dark to the point where they almost look black, and the other half are really light red. The yellows are pretty standard, although a few have an unbroken dorsal stripe which I'm a big fan of :)

Our mite phase juvies were the real dark red as hatchlings so I'm hoping that these will turn into that eventually...although I'm definitely hoping to have them all sold off by then so I guess I'll never find out...lol

I'll get more shots after their first shed once we start the process of feeding, but I knew I couldn't post anything about hatchlings without photos, so here are a few from the remaining pipped snakes.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ry92011025.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ry92011026.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ry92011021.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ry92011033.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ry92011037.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ry92011030.jpg

WOW you weren't lying, that snake is so red its almost black! Awsome pics! :gj:

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Originally Posted by DZ Reptiles

WOW you weren't lying, that snake is so red its almost black! Awsome pics! :gj:

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Give me a few minutes...lol.

I'll get a picture of one of the dark red ones (they've all hatched). Those ones above are actually the lighter ones.

Very cool!!!! Congrats on hatching some amazing animals.:gj:

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Originally Posted by DZ Reptiles

WOW you weren't lying, that snake is so red its almost black! Awsome pics! :gj:

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Here ya go... some of the dark ones. For comparison, the perch is black.


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ry92011042.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ry92011044.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ry92011043.jpg

WOW!!! very cool thanks for the pictures! Will they stay red? Sorry don't know much about the tree pythons.

I'm speechless! :P

BTW! I give you a 10/10 :banana:

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Originally Posted by Wapadi

WOW!!! very cool thanks for the pictures! Will they stay red? Sorry don't know much about the tree pythons.

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Nope - after a year or so they start going through a color change where they'll switch over to their adult colors. Sometimes they retain some black, and they'll usually gain some yellows as they get older even if they were red to start out with.

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Originally Posted by DZ Reptiles

I'm speechless! :P

BTW! I give you a 10/10 :banana:

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Thanks!

Awesome, those reds are amazing.

WOW.....Thanks for sharing those BEAUTIFUL BABIES!!!!!!

Thanks! I find myself going back and looking at the picture of the red one in the egg... I didn't really notice the detail and shadows on the egg til I took the photo. It kinda reminds me of a picture of the moon or something :)

Amazing. It's almost sad to me that they will turn green, but I know they are Red and Yellow to match the flowers in the region where they're from.

Great pictures! I'll own one soon, as I really want an awesome Showcase animal.

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Great pictures! I'll own one soon, as I really want an awesome Showcase animal.

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And surprisingly calm for handling too (most of the time). A lot of people assume they're strictly hands-off....

Sooooooo I saw u said your hoping to get rid of all these hiw much for one of the super dark red ones

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Originally Posted by frenchy

Sooooooo I saw u said your hoping to get rid of all these hiw much for one of the super dark red ones

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we absolutely are.... and I'm really surprised at how much people like the dark ones!

PM sent

those are beautiful babies!!! so little I cant wait till I feel like I am ready to be a GTP mommy too :)

Congrats! They are amazing. I looked at the pictures you posted of their siblings and they are so cool!

Thanks! I think what fascinates me about these guys is that they're always changing....you never know what they'll turn into!

Got a few more pics tonight when I was putting the latest ones away.

For size reference:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...y102011001.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...y102011002.jpg

And for color comparison (they're housed individually, but I thought this would be a neat photo-op while I had the chance):

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...y102011010.jpg

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Originally Posted by TrpnBils

Got a few more pics tonight when I was putting the latest ones away.

For size reference:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...y102011001.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...y102011002.jpg

And for color comparison (they're housed individually, but I thought this would be a neat photo-op while I had the chance):

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...y102011010.jpg

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That is an awesome group picture... must resist.. must stick saving for my 2011 ball pick ups.. but those dark ones are pretty close to irresistible!

Gorgeous little babies! I love the red!

I'm kinda feeling bad for all the yellow ones....their siblings are getting all the lovin'! :)

WOW!!! :gj:

Cant get over these they are so gorgeous im so in for one of these and the yellows are gorgeous too thats what I was gunna first but those darkbreds stole my heart maybe ill pick a yellow up also

Those all look amazing. So they will all end up turning into a normal green? I don't know much about Tree Pythons at all. Just that they look amazing.

Those are all so amazing! I cant wait till I start my venture into GTPs!! :cool:

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Those all look amazing. So they will all end up turning into a normal green? I don't know much about Tree Pythons at all. Just that they look amazing.

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Yep! All normal green, although there are differences in the patterns that may or may not be visible as adults. Regardless of color, they'll all be slightly different anyway...different shades of green, different amounts of blue and yellow, different amounts of white dorsal spots, etc.

I could go into some philosophical theory about how each one is unique like a snowflake, but I'll spare everyone that. I think my brain is suffering from frostbite after the drive in today....

Absolutely stunning!!! They are on my 'NEED' list! I will have one very soon! Where in PA are you?

Congrats!

We're in Erie - we could work out a deal for delivering one to Ohio rather than paying for shipping charges :)

They look great..I hope you're saving a nice one for me ;)
Let me know when I can stop by and check them out.

How old do they need to be to sex them? When are they ready to go to new homes?

They're generally able to be sexed at 1 year old and 100g in weight (for reference, they're averaging 13g at hatch time).

They're known for being problem feeders for the first few meals, so we'll get all that stuff out of the way and we're hoping to get 10 meals or so into them by the time we let them go. We can start feeding trials as soon as they shed for the first time, and they should be ready to go by late March or early April.

If you're interested, PM me and we can talk!

Congrats on the newborns! Some really great photos and great variation in color! You should post some photos of the adults that produced these stunning neonates

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Congrats on the newborns! Some really great photos and great variation in color! You should post some photos of the adults that produced these stunning neonates

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Thanks! I'll get some up later on when I get home.

On a side note, the last yellow one (the one we thought was dead in the egg) finally emerged 2 days after the rest, and it bit me twice while I was weighing it and moving it to its new tub, so apparently it's in good shape!

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Originally Posted by TrpnBils

We're in Erie - we could work out a deal for delivering one to Ohio rather than paying for shipping charges :)

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Can you pm me the rates for them? By the time they are ready, I may be ready for one!

Thanks!

PM sent

So if I get two I would just be hoping for a male and female??????? Well I am a gambling man sound like fun

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Originally Posted by frenchy

So if I get two I would just be hoping for a male and female??????? Well I am a gambling man sound like fun

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Yep - won't be able to sex them for awhile yet. If in a year you have them sexed and they don't end up being what you want, you could always contact somebody at a show maybe and see about doing a trade.

And hey this could work out in your favor if you're looking to breed in the future...once they're sexed, that generally skews the prices by making the females more expensive. If you end up getting two females, all you have to do is drop a little extra money on a male and you can pair him up with both the females. It beats getting two males anyway!

I was thinking the same thing like I said gambling man here so ya im doing alot of research as you suggested what kind of caging size do you suggest

We house ours in tubs for the first year or two, gradually increasing the size as they grow. Right now they're housed in 6qt tubs with lots of perches, but they can be moved into something larger after a few months.

They're like any other snake in that if the cage/tub is too big, they'll fail to become strong feeders due to stress. The container should be tall enough so that the perch is off the ground at a height that allows the snake to coil a meal up underneath it without hitting the ground (this sometimes makes them drop their meal). Be careful though about not making it too high so that the snake can't get down to the ground and back up!

As adults, 2x2x2 foot cage is good, but larger is better if you can manage. They'll usually use the highest available perch regardless of temp, so a horizontal heat gradient is better than a vertical one. We use back heat on our tubs since they're off the ground anyway, but a radiant heat panel is more appropriate for an adult-sized cage as it can safely be put inside the cage with the snake (unlike flexwatt, a UTH, or light bulb).

can we see some sire and dam pics. nice clutch.

thats is so awesome!

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Originally Posted by Lucas339

can we see some sire and dam pics. nice clutch.

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Nothing real spectacular photo-wise, but...

sire
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...r122010004.jpg

dam
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...r122010013.jpg

She is also featured in this thread, although it's not her best side...lol
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...one-s-face-off

holy yellow belly!! lol!

good looking parents!

He looks good, but he's got anger issues...lol