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  • 12-28-2010, 01:35 AM
    tsshields
    Want to start a collection
    I have saved up about 1500 dollars and I want to purchase some more ball pythons I recently have a 600g spider male and 400g female pastel. With that being said what would some of your guys ideas that you would get with 1500 dollars. I understand that its my snakes and it should be my ideas but I want to get some ideas on what you guys would do with 1500. Would you spend it all on just two or three snakes would you spread it out and get a decent amount ideas ideas ideas!!!!!
  • 12-28-2010, 01:49 AM
    LeviBP
    Man, you can do a lot with $1500 in the BP world. It really revolves around what you want and are into as a collector/breeder. You already have the Spider - Pastel match up for a Bumble Bee. If you are into the Leucistics you could buy a couple Fire's (Female and Male) and pop out some Black Eyed Leucistics. You could even buy a couple Albinos and breed. Or you could purchase a Piebald and breed it to one of your current snakes (They cost around $1100), and have a chance at hatching some Piebalds or Pastel Piebalds or Spider Piebalds. You could purchase another Pastel to breed Super Pastels, or just buy a Super Pastel and breed it to your Spider for some Killer Bees!

    I mean with $1500 you can buy at least one of most BP's on the market right now and start breeding for different morphs through the combination, especially with that Pastel. Remember, in any collection, the Pastel is killer!

    The possibilities are exponential, my advice is to find a morph you like, or don't have enough to buy, but can by the two required to make that certain morph and go for it. It's all about you here! :cool:
  • 12-28-2010, 02:00 AM
    darkbloodwyvern
    I would spread it out a little! I like: Pieds, pastels, fires, spotnoses and yellowbellies! I'd probably get a couple NICE normal or het girls. I guess I'd advise looking through some classifieds and see what you like best! Decide whether you can wait for hets or if you want a visual! OR find a cool co dom or combo morph that you like and decide if you would rather buy the snakes that can make it, or the combo itself!

    Personally, my shopping list is thus:

    Ghost
    fire
    yellow belly
    spider combo!


    I'm planning on getting a fireYBpastel combo next year! i LOVE combos!
  • 12-28-2010, 02:06 AM
    tsshields
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeviBP View Post
    Man, you can do a lot with $1500 in the BP world. It really revolves around what you want and are into as a collector/breeder. You already have the Spider - Pastel match up for a Bumble Bee. If you are into the Leucistics you could buy a couple Fire's (Female and Male) and pop out some Black Eyed Leucistics. You could even buy a couple Albinos and breed. Or you could purchase a Piebald and breed it to one of your current snakes (They cost around $1100), and have a chance at hatching some Piebalds or Pastel Piebalds or Spider Piebalds. You could purchase another Pastel to breed Super Pastels, or just buy a Super Pastel and breed it to your Spider for some Killer Bees!

    I mean with $1500 you can buy at least one of most BP's on the market right now and start breeding for different morphs through the combination, especially with that Pastel. Remember, in any collection, the Pastel is killer!

    The possibilities are exponential, my advice is to find a morph you like, or don't have enough to buy, but can by the two required to make that certain morph and go for it. It's all about you here! :cool:

    Hey thanks a bunch for the input gosh now you really got me thinking???? I like the albinos alot and I really would like to kinda get a small breeding project going I have the space and time its just so hard for me to choose what I should go with. I have always wanted to do binos super bad and your right it would be a bad Idea to get me another pastel. The only thing is I am really hoping for some bumblebees out of the spider and pastel. So i would have to repurchase another two pastels but not to big of deal. But the albinos are really nice too.... You had also mention two fires to make leucistitc how much do fires run???
  • 12-28-2010, 02:07 AM
    tsshields
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkbloodwyvern View Post
    I would spread it out a little! I like: Pieds, pastels, fires, spotnoses and yellowbellies! I'd probably get a couple NICE normal or het girls. I guess I'd advise looking through some classifieds and see what you like best! Decide whether you can wait for hets or if you want a visual! OR find a cool co dom or combo morph that you like and decide if you would rather buy the snakes that can make it, or the combo itself!

    Personally, my shopping list is thus:

    Ghost
    fire
    yellow belly
    spider combo!


    I'm planning on getting a fireYBpastel combo next year! i LOVE combos!

    Yea I think I wouldnt mind waiting out the process such as het for bino and see if I can spring a clutch and possibly a few binos but I would really like a visual just to mess with too :)
  • 12-28-2010, 02:12 AM
    Crazy4Herps
    Personally, I would spend 1500 on a combination of locality boas and caging. But if you're just looking for ball pythons, there's a simple answer: go to an expo and pick out a couple of things you like. Look for quality morphs, not necessarily high end morphs. Take, for example, pastels. There are a lot of browned out, normal looking pastels that go for next to nothing. But, if you look, you can find some super nice pastels going for $500+, that are well worth the money. Look around, check out faunaclassifieds.com and market.kingsnake.com, and find something you like, then find a superior example of what you like.
  • 12-28-2010, 02:17 AM
    tsshields
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crazy4Herps View Post
    Personally, I would spend 1500 on a combination of locality boas and caging. But if you're just looking for ball pythons, there's a simple answer: go to an expo and pick out a couple of things you like. Look for quality morphs, not necessarily high end morphs. Take, for example, pastels. There are a lot of browned out, normal looking pastels that go for next to nothing. But, if you look, you can find some super nice pastels going for $500+, that are well worth the money. Look around, check out faunaclassifieds.com and market.kingsnake.com, and find something you like, then find a superior example of what you like.

    Well actually now that you brought it up i already have a hog island boa and was looking to get a albino boa soon but I dont know if im ready to breed boas yet but I have always wanted to!!!! :)
  • 12-28-2010, 02:18 AM
    LeviBP
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tsshields View Post
    Hey thanks a bunch for the input gosh now you really got me thinking???? I like the albinos alot and I really would like to kinda get a small breeding project going I have the space and time its just so hard for me to choose what I should go with. I have always wanted to do binos super bad and your right it would be a bad Idea to get me another pastel. The only thing is I am really hoping for some bumblebees out of the spider and pastel. So i would have to repurchase another two pastels but not to big of deal. But the albinos are really nice too.... You had also mention two fires to make leucistitc how much do fires run???

    You could probably get a Fire pair for around $400 give or take $50 bucks.
    (Or ready to breed for around $600, but it really depends on who's selling)

    Theoretically you should have a good chance to get a Bumble Bee out of your first clutch with your Pastel and Spider. And to make a Killer bee, all you need to do is breed a Pastel to your Bumble Bee (You can use it's mother, but side effects have been noted after three generations of inbreeding) and considering a breeding size Pastel is only around $100-$150 it would be a good idea just to pick up another to make a Killer Bee.

    Yeah Albinos are hot! Everyone with a decent collection will pick one up at one time or another, so they're a good investment!
  • 12-28-2010, 02:57 AM
    WingedWolfPsion
    I think you should decide if it's an investment, or just a hobby. If it's an investment, then picking up a pied should be definite. You could get a male pied, and a female het pied with that. If it's a hobby, then just get the ones you love.
  • 12-28-2010, 03:11 AM
    Byrdie
    Don't listen to these so called "experts" (lol jkin) just saying you can NEVER go wrong with a normal ;) if anything a pair of ready to breed HETs could potentially double or triple your money :) but that's just me :P
  • 12-28-2010, 03:13 AM
    LeviBP
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Byrdie View Post
    Don't listen to these so called "experts" (lol jkin) just saying you can NEVER go wrong with a normal ;) if anything a pair of ready to breed HETs could potentially double or triple your money :) but that's just me :P

    Sure, but if you have the money, why not cut to the chase?
    Hehehe :P
  • 12-28-2010, 03:49 AM
    Byrdie
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeviBP View Post
    Sure, but if you have the money, why not cut to the chase?
    Hehehe :P

    Life is all about the Journey not the Destination :)
  • 12-28-2010, 03:54 AM
    shorty54
    I'd get a pied! Then a lesser or mojo.
  • 12-28-2010, 12:53 PM
    jonesy72
    im kinda in the same delema.. .i have 0.1 spider 0.1 pastel 1.0 pastel ,would like to add.
    fire ,sugar, mojo or
    fire, , enchi. lesser..
    dont really want ot go ressive yet
    i can decide:confused:
  • 12-28-2010, 02:08 PM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: Want to start a collection
    I would go with a pied and het pieds / morph het pieds.
  • 12-28-2010, 05:49 PM
    tsshields
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeviBP View Post
    You could probably get a Fire pair for around $400 give or take $50 bucks.
    (Or ready to breed for around $600, but it really depends on who's selling)

    Theoretically you should have a good chance to get a Bumble Bee out of your first clutch with your Pastel and Spider. And to make a Killer bee, all you need to do is breed a Pastel to your Bumble Bee (You can use it's mother, but side effects have been noted after three generations of inbreeding) and considering a breeding size Pastel is only around $100-$150 it would be a good idea just to pick up another to make a Killer Bee.

    Yeah Albinos are hot! Everyone with a decent collection will pick one up at one time or another, so they're a good investment!

    Yea I think your right I should just go buy another pastel when I breed the pastel and spider and hopefully pop out a bumblebee. And answer to some other questions I would like to kinda of make some money but at the same time it is just a hobby so a little bit of both would be nice lol.... I wish I had some friends where I lived that did this and I wasent all by my self it would be nice to see some hands on stuff....
  • 12-28-2010, 05:52 PM
    tsshields
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jonesy72 View Post
    im kinda in the same delema.. .i have 0.1 spider 0.1 pastel 1.0 pastel ,would like to add.
    fire ,sugar, mojo or
    fire, , enchi. lesser..
    dont really want ot go ressive yet
    i can decide:confused:

    Hahah I know its so hard I think I am going to get two more pastels after I breed out pastel and spider... Then I think I will go with fires and enchi and I have always wanted lessers god there are just way to many morphs I just feel spending 1500 on just two snakes is crazy but at the same time a good idea cause I will have two very good morphs ahhhh decisions decisions
  • 12-28-2010, 06:13 PM
    jefrow
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Byrdie View Post
    Life is all about the Journey not the Destination :)

    thats the truth right there. I think its way better to produce something yourself then to just buy it
  • 12-28-2010, 06:36 PM
    FatBoy
    Just don't go out and buy several snakes and forget about housing them...need to make sure some of that is spent on some type rack.
  • 12-28-2010, 07:11 PM
    LeviBP
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FatBoy View Post
    Just don't go out and buy several snakes and forget about housing them...need to make sure some of that is spent on some type rack.

    I second this, you don't want to put yourself and the BP's in a situation where they are in your possession but don't have adequate housing for an extended period of time. A good thing to keep in mind:gj:
  • 12-28-2010, 07:39 PM
    Powerspythons
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Build your own racks, its cheap and unless you're incapable of using a drill its really easy! As far as the snakes I would choose, it depends on what you're looking to do, for a "long term investment"(there's really no other type with BPs:P) I would invest in a het pied male and 2 het pied females as well as a lesser male and a pinstripe male and a spider female and some normal females.(and if you have any money leftover I'd save it for feeding them!!!) On the other hand if you just think they're awesome animals and dont intend to breed them, then just get whatever you think looks the coolest...NERD has some amazing stuff.
  • 12-28-2010, 08:47 PM
    tsshields
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FatBoy View Post
    Just don't go out and buy several snakes and forget about housing them...need to make sure some of that is spent on some type rack.

    I should have stated earlier I have three racks already made can house about 15 babies right now and 15 adults bps
  • 12-28-2010, 11:21 PM
    Subdriven
    Get a desert... :) and cross that with a bumble bee from your clutch.. get ahead of the game and make some SWEET babies!
  • 12-28-2010, 11:45 PM
    BoaFreak
    Re: Want to start a collection
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shorty54 View Post
    I'd get a pied! Then a lesser or mojo.

    This one has my vote :gj: but I would go Lesser before mojo but thats just me
  • 12-29-2010, 03:05 AM
    LeviBP
    Pied are hot! So I second Powerspythons, but you can get a little more for $1500, be creative! :gj:
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