New BP hatchlings not eating! Need Suggestions!

I bought 2 BP hatchlings 6 days ago from a small breeder that I have bought several corns from that were always in good health. He said that he bought the hatchling from somebody else. He also said that he had fed them about a 1.5 week before I had bought them and they were probably ready to eat. He said that he fed them a live hopper each that they would not eat the frozen thet he tried. They just seem to skinny to have eaten well now 2.5 week ago. they weigh about 50g. I tried frozen yesterday due to only having live 2day old pinks at the time. They would not eat. I have them in plastivc shoe box with hide and they are at about 90-92 warm side. I do not know how far to let them go before I have to do a assist feed? I hear that a assit feed can be hard on them but I guess that would be better than no feed? Do not know what to do or try next, my corn always feed good. here are some pictures of the one..

Try live mouse or rat pinks, or use f/t pinks and heat them up with a blow dryer and wiggle them around with a pair of tongs. If they seem interested, that's a good sign. If they don't take the f/t out of the tongs, leave it in the tub overnight. I usually leave them close to the heat source so they don't get ice cold. Sometimes they will only eat when they are sure nothing will disturb them. It's very important that they can see the heat signature on the food. I would only try to feed every 5 days and don't disturb them at all unless you need to clean the enclosure, or change the water (are they drinking water?). If hatchlings go more than 4 weeks without eating, you may want to assist feed, although it is very stressful, so try all other options first. You may also want to put crinkled up newspaper all over their tubs to make them feel more safe. You can also check out the caresheets on this site. I know i have seen some on feeding issues. Good luck!

I tried the warm mouse, wiggleing and then left it in overnight w/ everything quiet. does not seem like they really drank any water. I will try live pinks. If that does not work I will then assist feed. Any tips on assist feed?

Here is the pictures

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this may be a felling of not being secure issue idk..not really seeing much for hides.. you could also add some crumpled news paper in there also.. i wouldnt assist feed yet. live hooper is what always worked for me..youve only had them for 6 days .. seems they have been moved around alot in their young life. take your time.

wow those are some seriously emaciated snakes that breeder does not know what he is talking about if he bought those pythons knowing full well what poor condition there are in then selling them knowing how bad they are that is a horrible person who i would say don't go back to

Are they in two seperate tubs? 6 days is not very long for them to have settled in, especially since they are small babies. Normally you should let them settle without handling for a week before you start trying to feed them.

Give them lots of hide spots and perhaps block the light on at least two sides to make them feel enclosed and safe. They look a bit skinny and 50 grams is small. Live rat pinks or live mouse hoppers might entice them to eat. With F/T prey make certain it's really warm so it shows up as a good heat signature to them.

Good luck.

Yes they are in 2 seperate hides. They were togeather when I got them and then split them up.

Two seperate cages or two seperate hides in one cage? I hate to assume you mean cage when you say hide.

With the cardboard tubes, you can also put in some small cardboard boxes or plastic tubs with holes cut in them so it's crowded and they think they are hiding and all. A hidden snake is a secure feeling snake. Secure feeling snakes are more likely to relax and eat up all the prey.

my hatchling pinstripe ate at first and then stopped. She was only 65 grams and went down to 40 grams in a month and a half. I assist fed her once and now shes taking hoppers like its no ones business. Shes hitting 90 grams now. Just make sure they are hydrated and have their hide spots, make them just big enough for them to fit it. hatchlings like to feel nice and snug, gives them a sense of security. Make sure when you feed them let the mouse sit in the room for about 30 minutes get a nice scent going and get their interest in feeding up.

I would be assist feeding right now. Every 4 days, a f/t warmed pinky. Don't do anything too big because anything will be a shock to their systems at this point. In their condition I wouldn't waste time letting them settle in.

I would like to thank everyone for there help. I have them in 2 seperate cages and put crupled newspaper in with each of them along with the cardboard tubes. I will let them settle 1 more day and then try live. If they do not take the live then I will assist feed. thanks again everyone. Merry Christmas.

Went to assist feed today and the one was barely moving, almost thought he had died at first. I put him in some warm water and he seemed to come around a little. He drank and then I assist fed him a warmed f/t mouse pink. I helped him a little work the pink to his stomach. I covered him up with crumpled news paper in his shoe box and put him back on the heat.
The other one was able to move alittle more. I put the warmed f/t mouse pink into its mouth and it took it down the rest of the way on her own. Gave a little warm bath and a drink and then covered up with the crumpled newspaper in its shoebox and put back to heat.
I guess only a little time will tell now, but does not look to good!! I will be defenitly be calling the person I bought them from(tomarrow, I won't on christmas).
They were suppose to be for my boys for christmas, they might have to get some new ones, so if anyone knows any in northern WI that will be good stock I would greatly appreciate to know who!!
Thanks

Dont give up on them now. If they keep the food down then they still have a chance. I have 4 snakes that hatched october 1st and they still havent fed by themselves.

I have not given up and won't give up. I was just saying the odds are not on their side by maybe a few prayers will come through. And if more are aquired well you know, you can never have too many. LOL You can't leave racks empty. LOL

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Originally Posted by BigBass10

I have not given up and won't give up. I was just saying the odds are not on their side by maybe a few prayers will come through. And if more are aquired well you know, you can never have too many. LOL You can't leave racks empty. LOL

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A lot of them can bounce back with some extra care.
But yes, you can only have as many as you can afford!
Problem is my pockets stop at the top of my pants:O

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Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl

A lot of them can bounce back with some extra care.
But yes, you can only have as many as you can afford!
Problem is my pockets stop at the top of my pants:O

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Wow, hoping all goes well, definitely keep us posted. And be sure to provide enough heat so that they can properly metabolize the meals.

Fred.

I have them about 92 on the warm side. Looks like one is digesting the meal, the other on the other hand still has a good lump. I been soaking them a little each day to try to rehydrate them, was going to get some pedilite and mix that 50/50 with the water. They have been drinking a ton when I soak them, I don't think they are stong enough to make to their water bowls. Still saying prayers!!

Both hatchling passed today.:( I contacted the person that I got them from and found out that they were given a ivermectin shot due to having mites. They dose must have been too much.

On a good note I had a phone call from someone and aquired a 6yr. old 0.0.1 B.P. that they did not have time to take care of anymore. I do not know the weight because my scale does not read that high. I just have a small digital that I used for my corns. I put it in one of my displays and will let it settle for a while. I will get some pictures in a weel or so.

Thank you everyone for your help.

I don't know I wouldn't try to feed my new snake for a week or two let alone a hatchling! give em some time to get comfy don't worry :)

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Originally Posted by neur0tix

I don't know I wouldn't try to feed my new snake for a week or two let alone a hatchling! give em some time to get comfy don't worry :)

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wow please read the entire thread before commenting

also sorry for your loss please let us know what the so called "breeder" said or if you got your money back

The person/ Breeder I bought them from did not hatch them he had picked them up from a kid at a show he said. Realized they had some mites later and tried treating them. He has called me back several times and has been very apologetic and will cover the loss. Like I had said earlier all the other corns that I have bought from him were in excellent health.