Regurge!

Got a brand new little enchi, maybe a little over 100 grams? I've been feeding her f/t hoppers every 6 days or so for the last few weeks, and she's always hungry... so on Friday I fed her two. And then I had one hopper left over because another snake was in shed, so I figured, if the enchi wants a third mouse, why not let her have it?

Well, today I come home and find she's yacked up two of the three hoppers. One of them looks hardly digested at all... yuck.

So now what? Do I feed her one hopper as usual on Friday? Hold off a week?

I would say hold off feeding for two weeks to let her insides settle. 3 mice is a little much but hopefully she'll be ok. If it happens again, you might have to take her to the vet and get a fecal which will show for parasites. Hope this helped!
-Johnny

Wow, that sucks! Hope your baby is ok! I know that it is really painful for them!

DO NOT!!!!!!!! feed your snake for at least 2 weeks. When you do, feed it a small meal and wait for it to pass it. A regurgitation can be a very bad thing for a snake that can easily lead to death if not handled correctly.

Heed Big Gunns professional words or very possibly wish you had.:gj:

I guess I could just run her to the vet this week. Should I do that? Or wait a week and see what happens next feeding?

(she's still got that first mouse in there somewhere. I don't know if that helps at all.)

I would just wait for two weeks and see if that works. BG is right, feed her smaller sized rats to see if she passes it on first. If she regurges again then take her to the vet for a fecal.

Yeah its kind of a rule to not feed your snake for 2 to 3 weeks, no matter the size. Their digestive system isn't able to rebound like a humans, so they need longer to heal before attempting to eat again. I usually feed very tiny meals like rat Pinkies or Pups and Hopper mice for younger snakes.

I've fed snakes 3 rats back to back, but never that young, 100 grams is awful small for eating 3 meals in one. Just try and continue with a consistent 1 meal a sitting schedule once she has been left alone for at least 2 weeks.

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Originally Posted by steveboos

I've fed snakes 3 rats back to back, but never that young, 100 grams is awful small for eating 3 meals in one. Just try and continue with a consistent 1 meal a sitting schedule once she has been left alone for at least 2 weeks.

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Well, these were hopper mice. And she didn't even look particularly full afterwards... but the first mouse she retched up didn't look digested AT ALL. Like it hadn't even made it into her stomach.

The other thing that happened between Friday and Monday was somebody mistook the cord to the enchi's UTH for the plug to a floor lamp, and pulled it out to plug in the vacuum. I didn't notice until Sunday night... so it was pretty cold in there for a day, and then it was suddenly warm again. I wonder if the flip-flopping temperatures upset the enchi girl's gut bugs?

yeesh, all of the above, maybe? A big meal and low temps is really bad on little snakie guts.
Also, taking a snake (or any pet) to the vet is usually really stressful for them, so give a few days to adjust if you do have to take her in. I fed my corn snake a week after a regurg and all he did was barf it up the next morning. I waited three weeks after than and he was fine! My little BP male regurged only once and i fasted him three weeks and he's never done it since...

not having proper heat will also cause a regurg, but like everyone else stated, don't over feed. and wait the 2 weeks and offer a little smaller than normal. no need for a vet visit at this point.

Plus, taking a snake to the vet is also stressful to me... or at least to my wallet... but if everyone had told me to do it, I woulda gone. :P

But she can wait a week or two. She never yacked up that first mouse, so I assume she's got a little fuel left in there to go on.

Thanks, guys!

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Originally Posted by loonunit

Plus, taking a snake to the vet is also stressful to me... or at least to my wallet... but if everyone had told me to do it, I woulda gone. :P

But she can wait a week or two. She never yacked up that first mouse, so I assume she's got a little fuel left in there to go on.

Thanks, guys!

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Yeah, vet visits are stressful for me too and I work at one! XD She just should be just fine fasting, though I bet she will do her best to convince you she needs food. It just means she'll eat really good when she's all recovered, ha ha!

Good luck!

Yeah, she's already out and making a big show of it. Sorry, Enchilada! You gotta wait.

(Am I allowed to name my enchi Enchilada? Or is that just wrong?)

Enchilada is perfect for an Enchi! haha. I too just had my ball regurge. Two things happened. 1) I wanted to switch her feeding pattern from a Monday to a Saturday, so it had only been 5 days since her last meal (VERY amateur move :colbert:) and 2) it got REALLY hot today and I wasn't able to monitor the temps. So either a combo of the two or both was the case. Basically bad husbandry is what caused it. :mad: live and learn.

Yes now that you mention it, a very quick change in temps and especially if it goes from room temperature to above 90 degrees quickly, can cause a regurgitation.

I had a female Spider regurgitate on me a while back, i didn't realize how hot it got that day and while they were in quarantine, the temps in the room were higher than normal. I let her chill for about 17 days and fed her, no problems and she grew like a weed after that!

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Originally Posted by tqmidget85

1) I wanted to switch her feeding pattern from a Monday to a Saturday, so it had only been 5 days since her last meal (VERY amateur move :colbert:) and 2) it got REALLY hot today and I wasn't able to monitor the temps. So either a combo of the two or both was the case. Basically bad husbandry is what caused it. :mad: live and learn.

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I'm betting it was more 2.) than 1.)! Generally when I try to feed them too soon, they "kill" the mouse, gnaw on it for a while, but don't actually swallow it. Or they simply refuse... But this is my very first regurgitation in two years of keeping ball pythons, and I've been playing pretty fast and loose with my feeding days the entire time. Usually it only results in leftover, slightly mauled mice that I have to bury under the rose bushes at the end of the night.

So I bet it was the temperatures bouncing around that caused the regurgitations in both cases.

(Wait, where are you that you have HOT temperatures? Everyone I know is under 3 feet of snow this week.)

haha I say "really" hot comparatively. I live in Southern California and it was almost 85 today! Insane! But the reason for the higher than normal temps is because my room is like an oven with horrible circulation (when the windows are closed of course)

Please feed me! I'M SO HUNGRY! PLEASE! Sooooo hungry....

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1g-0d-dBQWk/TQ...0/IMG_3512.JPG

(Huh, that's kind of a cute lil snake, isn't it?)

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Originally Posted by loonunit

Please feed me! I'M SO HUNGRY! PLEASE! Sooooo hungry....

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_1g-0d-dBQWk/TQ...0/IMG_3512.JPG

(Huh, that's kind of a cute lil snake, isn't it?)

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lol cute picture.. our girl begs like that too.