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  • 11-24-2010, 12:10 AM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Hissing?
    Ok so i picked up this normal female super cheap at the the reptile show (go figure) anyways she had stuck shed took care of that and what looks like dimples in her eye.

    Well anyways between last night and tonight i have noticed every now and then ill hear just one simple hiss. And thats it. She "sleeps" all day never see her move, never hear the hissing noise.

    But around this time she becomes active and every now and then u will hear it.

    Check her nose no stuck shed causing the noise, checked mouth completely ok no RI, mucus, or anything even looking like a RI.

    Any idea what this could be? She does it like every 30-60 mins. And its just one quick exhale of air it sounds like.

    Thanks,

    Mike
  • 11-24-2010, 12:21 AM
    bsavage
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by f4n70m View Post
    Ok so i picked up this normal female super cheap at the the reptile show (go figure) anyways she had stuck shed took care of that and what looks like dimples in her eye.

    Well anyways between last night and tonight i have noticed every now and then ill hear just one simple hiss. And thats it. She "sleeps" all day never see her move, never hear the hissing noise.

    But around this time she becomes active and every now and then u will hear it.

    Check her nose no stuck shed causing the noise, checked mouth completely ok no RI, mucus, or anything even looking like a RI.

    Any idea what this could be? She does it like every 30-60 mins. And its just one quick exhale of air it sounds like.

    Thanks,

    Mike

    I've had my big normal male do that occasionally, as well as some of the snakes I used to keep. I swear it was like a sigh. Never had an RI problem, and usually it was around shed, I'vd noticed it shortly before and after. Just keep an eye on temps and continue to check for RI symptoms. You should be fine. Don't let someone scare you into thinking he has an RI either, just be vigilant and you'll/he'll be okay :P

    you sound like you know what your doing
  • 11-24-2010, 12:24 AM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bsavage View Post
    I've had my big normal male do that occasionally, as well as some of the snakes I used to keep. I swear it was like a sigh. Never had an RI problem, and usually it was around shed, I'vd noticed it shortly before and after. Just keep an eye on temps and continue to check for RI symptoms. You should be fine. Don't let someone scare you into thinking he has an RI either, just be vigilant and you'll/he'll be okay.

    Iv been checking her temps/ for a RI for the past 48 hrs or so and even at the show and after i brought her come i checked. Shes just roaming around now but every now and then she lets off like a puff of air.

    It sounds like a RI to me but shes showing no other signs
  • 11-24-2010, 12:27 AM
    bsavage
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by f4n70m View Post
    Iv been checking her temps/ for a RI for the past 48 hrs or so and even at the show and after i brought her come i checked. Shes just roaming around now but every now and then she lets off like a puff of air.

    It sounds like a RI to me but shes showing no other signs

    Ya, that's what the three I've had do that are like as well. Just keep checking for signs, and as always, head to the vet if your ever worried. Is there condensation in the enclosure? Maybe a bit of water got into the nasal passage? I've heard them do this after a soak so maybe thats it?
  • 11-24-2010, 12:35 AM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bsavage View Post
    Ya, that's what the three I've had do that are like as well. Just keep checking for signs, and as always, head to the vet if your ever worried. Is there condensation in the enclosure? Maybe a bit of water got into the nasal passage? I've heard them do this after a soak so maybe thats it?

    She had a soak sat and another one sunday to remove the stuck shed

    I just rechecked her and at the back of her throat is a bit of like bubbles. Maybe she is starting up a RI. Its not all over her mouth just at the back near the throat.
  • 11-24-2010, 01:06 AM
    Stubean15
    sometimes i hear a little hissing noise when my snake moves.. i think its a fart lol

    edit:oh i just read about the bubbles.. yea id keep an eye on it my bad :(
  • 11-24-2010, 01:13 AM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stubean15 View Post
    sometimes i hear a little hissing noise when my snake moves.. i think its a fart lol

    edit:oh i just read about the bubbles.. yea id keep an eye on it my bad :(

    Yea seems she has Bubbles in the back of her mouth. Not much just a little bit. So im not to sure. Between his hissing and striking at me its not to easy to keep her mouth open. Shes close to 1800 grams so...

    Btw if it is indeed a RI should u lower the humidity? or raise it?

    Imma call vet in morning but she cannot visit till friday when i get paid

    Vet should only be around $60, paid $20 for her. So in the end ill be paying $80 not as good as i originally planned but if i throw my mojo or pinstripe with her next season what she produces will make me my money back + allowed me to get her a good home where shes well cared for.

    Tho this seems to be a major set back for her going this season. Do you think she could overcome this RI (if it is indeed what it is) in 2-3 months then start pairing a mojo and pin with her and hopefully get a clutch? Bad idea? or just wait till next season?
  • 11-24-2010, 01:21 AM
    Stubean15
    i remembered seeing this video and he talks about a fairly easy cure if you catch ri fast enough which it sounds like you have..

    i hope this helps..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJCnP...layer_embedded

    its at about 3:55

    good luck!
  • 11-24-2010, 01:23 AM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Stubean15 View Post
    i remembered seeing this video and he talks about a fairly easy cure if you catch ri fast enough which it sounds like you have..

    i hope this helps..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJCnP...layer_embedded

    good luck!

    Yea i seen that. Unfortunately its a lot more expensive then a vet visit.

    Between the mister + the medicine he puts in it. Will be more then the vet visit.

    Just to buy the procuct he uses cost

    Total: €234.91

    Since it has to be shipped from over seas lol
  • 11-24-2010, 03:40 AM
    thedarkwolf25
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by f4n70m View Post
    Yea i seen that. Unfortunately its a lot more expensive then a vet visit.

    Between the mister + the medicine he puts in it. Will be more then the vet visit.

    Just to buy the procuct he uses cost

    Total: €234.91

    Since it has to be shipped from over seas lol

    How much would the average vet visit for RI be?
  • 11-24-2010, 05:21 AM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thedarkwolf25 View Post
    How much would the average vet visit for RI be?

    its like $30 visit fee and $30 for the meds
  • 11-24-2010, 05:58 AM
    thedarkwolf25
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by f4n70m View Post
    its like $30 visit fee and $30 for the meds

    That's ALL! I was expecting MUCH MUCH more! Well that's a load off my back, if she ever gets it I know I won't have to sell all my possessions to pay for the vet bill.
  • 11-24-2010, 06:23 AM
    bsavage
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thedarkwolf25 View Post
    That's ALL! I was expecting MUCH MUCH more! Well that's a load off my back, if she ever gets it I know I won't have to sell all my possessions to pay for the vet bill.

    Good!

    In regards to your question about humidity, I've seen both answers get kicked around, and I think generally, either extreme is no good, so I would just keep it around normal range, which is high to begin with(55-65) and make sure the heat is up so the snake can fight the infection and dry out the infection. In McCurley's book he says that RI's are caused by a low ambient humidity(amongst other things) and so keeping it higher as opposed to lower is best.
  • 11-24-2010, 09:26 AM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bsavage View Post
    Good!

    In regards to your question about humidity, I've seen both answers get kicked around, and I think generally, either extreme is no good, so I would just keep it around normal range, which is high to begin with(55-65) and make sure the heat is up so the snake can fight the infection and dry out the infection. In McCurley's book he says that RI's are caused by a low ambient humidity(amongst other things) and so keeping it higher as opposed to lower is best.

    Haha yea iv seen high and low. But most people are saying lower the humidity and raise temps. Her back side has flexwwatt but i went ahead and added a strip to the front of her tub which is set at like 87.

    Im not allowing much of a heat gradient due to 3/4 of the tub is between 87-92 but iv been told if u keep em warmer (they may not like it) but it will kick their immune systems into "over drive" to attempt to fight it off.

    Not trying to cure it myself but i do not get paid till friday so she can not see vet till friday until them im keeping temps bumped up so it does not progress.

    Called vet today the visit is $35 and the meds are between $35-$45 depending on her weight as to how much meds he has to give per injection.
  • 11-24-2010, 11:55 AM
    Elise.m
    Are you sure it's coming from her nose? Maybe she's just passing gas?
  • 11-24-2010, 04:05 PM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Elise.m View Post
    Are you sure it's coming from her nose? Maybe she's just passing gas?

    Yes i watched her exhale. And the fact shes doing it a lot rules out the passing gas.
  • 11-24-2010, 05:26 PM
    loonunit
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Elise.m View Post
    Are you sure it's coming from her nose? Maybe she's just passing gas?

    Haha. :rofl: No, those actually sounds like, you know, passing gas.

    My black pastel male whistles when he's moving around a lot. For a while I worried he had an RI, but there wasn't any fluid, or any other signs of a problem.

    ...two years later, he's still healthy, and he still whistles. I think maybe he just has squashy nasal passageways. Maybe a low-level version of the super black pastel duck-billing?
  • 11-25-2010, 08:13 PM
    KushBall16
    I believe a dimple in the eye is a sign of dehydration...hopefully she'll be all right with the RI
  • 11-25-2010, 09:27 PM
    chaoticstone
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    Haha. :rofl: No, those actually sounds like, you know, passing gas.

    My black pastel male whistles when he's moving around a lot. For a while I worried he had an RI, but there wasn't any fluid, or any other signs of a problem.

    ...two years later, he's still healthy, and he still whistles. I think maybe he just has squashy nasal passageways. Maybe a low-level version of the super black pastel duck-billing?

    You may be right my black pastel female does the exact samething when I first got her I was checking her constantly for a RI stuck shed and nothing. I still sometimes check when she does it just to make sure lol.
  • 11-25-2010, 10:39 PM
    maverickgtr
    Re: Hissing?
    When we got our female, she had just had a bad shed and was whistling when she was moving with a purpose. When she was "sleeping" or just slowly moving it wasn't there. We took her to the vet and he told us that it was a stuck shed on the inside of her nose and there wasn't anything we could do except wait until her next shed. I didn't check for bubbles in her mouth though and I don't remember what the vet said about other signs of an RI. Sure enough, after her next shed she wasn't whistling at all anymore.

    Hopefully it's just some stuck shed in her nose and nothing serious!
  • 11-25-2010, 11:40 PM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: Hissing?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by maverickgtr View Post
    When we got our female, she had just had a bad shed and was whistling when she was moving with a purpose. When she was "sleeping" or just slowly moving it wasn't there. We took her to the vet and he told us that it was a stuck shed on the inside of her nose and there wasn't anything we could do except wait until her next shed. I didn't check for bubbles in her mouth though and I don't remember what the vet said about other signs of an RI. Sure enough, after her next shed she wasn't whistling at all anymore.

    Hopefully it's just some stuck shed in her nose and nothing serious!

    Yea she roams the tub every night. And if u watch her body u can see her take a big exhale. I checked the back of her mouth again today there are bubbles at the back of her mouth leading right down her throat. Its not completely all over her mouth. But im thinking shes mainly "hissing" cuz it is blocking her throat from the bubbles. Im pretty sure she has a RI

    I got a vet appt. made for sat morning. Going to take her up there and see whats up with her. I wish she didn thave the RI when i bought her (not that big of a deal)

    I do not mind buying a "sick snake" if its a nice size female. If she breeds for me... And i put my mojo with her... Ill easily make money back off mojo babies that i spent on her vet bill + im helping her get better and have a nice life =)
  • 11-26-2010, 11:02 AM
    thedarkwolf25
    Keep us posted on how she does!
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