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  • 11-16-2010, 11:34 PM
    KingPythons
    VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
  • 11-16-2010, 11:49 PM
    AaronP
    I hate to be a prude, but that top girl looks completely photoshopped.
  • 11-16-2010, 11:57 PM
    KingPythons
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    dont have photoshop buddy.
  • 11-17-2010, 12:10 AM
    A&S Reptiles
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Look at her neck by the shadow in the second picture. Dude be proud of your girl! Don't make her something she's not (:
  • 11-17-2010, 12:10 AM
    steveboos
    I thought the top pictures were in monochromatic mode!!! I can't believe how extreme of a Axanthic she is, i hope she stays that way!
  • 11-17-2010, 12:10 AM
    twistedtails
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    One of the best looking Axanthics I have ever seen!
  • 11-17-2010, 12:18 AM
    JLC
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    A really nice axanthic...especially a young one...will often look photoshopped just because of the extreme contrast between the black and white snake and the minimal colors of the surroundings. I don't see any evidence of photo tampering...I just see a really nice snake. :gj:
  • 11-17-2010, 12:20 AM
    KingPythons
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steveboos View Post
    I thought the top pictures were in monochromatic mode!!! I can't believe how extreme of a Axanthic she is, i hope she stays that way!

    Around 800 or 1000 grams I think she will start to brown out. But I paid good money because of the way her blushing is.
  • 11-17-2010, 12:22 AM
    KingPythons
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    A really nice axanthic...especially a young one...will often look photoshopped just because of the extreme contrast between the black and white snake and the minimal colors of the surroundings. I don't see any evidence of photo tampering...I just see a really nice snake. :gj:

    And you live close I bet!? Well if anyone doubts me you can always stop by to confirm.:D
  • 11-17-2010, 12:26 AM
    JLC
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KingPythons View Post
    And you live close I bet!? Well if anyone doubts me you can always stop by to confirm.:D

    Hehe...I could do that...although I'll admit to being afraid of I-25 in the winter time. :oops: (This is my first winter here!)
  • 11-17-2010, 12:30 AM
    KingPythons
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    Hehe...I could do that...although I'll admit to being afraid of I-25 in the winter time. :oops: (This is my first winter here!)

    Pretty soon u will be scared of leaving ur front door :P
  • 11-17-2010, 12:32 AM
    iCandiBallPythons
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    Hehe...I could do that...although I'll admit to being afraid of I-25 in the winter time. :oops: (This is my first winter here!)

    C'mon Queen J , Live Life in the fast lane :rofl:
    OP both snakes are beautiful examples :gj:
  • 11-17-2010, 12:37 AM
    JLC
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KingPythons View Post
    Pretty soon u will be scared of leaving ur front door :P

    Wouldn't know it by the weather lately! They keep teasing us with snow predictions and then it never comes. I'm in the south part of the city, too...so it shouldn't be hit as hard as the north gets it. Still...yeah...I'm not too eager to get out there and test my ice-driving!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iCandiBallPythons View Post
    C'mon Queen J , Live Life in the fast lane :rofl:

    No thanks! I'm already taking my brand new van into the shop tomorrow to pay $2300 to get a smushed up bumper fixed. (I was NOT driving! :taz: ) I don't need any more broken van! :P
  • 11-17-2010, 12:55 AM
    crapwhereaminow
    Wow that girl is amazing!!!!!
  • 11-17-2010, 03:06 AM
    sungmina
    Beautiful snakes, but I agree with others that the axanthic's photos are doctored in some way. I work a lot in Photoshop, so I can see that portions of the photo were 'enhanced'.

    I don't doubt that it is a beautiful animal, but the animal is actually shades of flat grey throughout (not even the slightest hue of color) and there is always some color even in black/grey/white things due to light, shading, and environment. I tested the snake by pulling the color directly from the photo in Photoshop, the entire snake is flat... even if the snake were completely grey and black (and essentially colorless) in real life, the photo would not turn out like a black and white photo with portions in color.

    A few other things pop out, like the fact that a portion of the rodent's foot is flat grey in the first picture, I color pulled and it has no color...

    There are also portions of the snake where the color was not entirely removed (in the first photo) like the very top left of where the neck is going under the body, a portion directly in front of the snake's eyes, and scattered portions of the snake just above where the newspaper lays over the snake. I can blow up and post the portions with color but I think that is going overboard...

    Also, in the skin between the scales where the neck is stretched for the rodent, we should see the pinks of the skin, but we don't.

    Please Please Please don't take this as an attack at all, it is not meant as such, I think many others already see how flat the image is and are sure the snakes are beautiful regardless. Maybe I am just overly skeptical, but the portions of the snake where the color was not removed completely has a much more convincing palette.

    Beautiful snakes, enchis are one of my favorites by far, and grats on them being great eaters :)
  • 11-17-2010, 08:22 AM
    AaronP
    As someone who has personally grown up what is considered by most to be a exceptional Axanthic I can say with certainty that is a doctored picture. I'd dissect the picture with Photoshop to explain my point but right now I am at work and Photobucket is blocked but if I remember right there is hardly any pink in the Axanthic's neck when it's eating.

    Compare that to just that Enchi pic and you'll notice a lot more pink on the bottom part of it's neck where its skin is stretching, this happens to all snakes, no matter what morph it is. You can see where the pink sort of is but it looks like it was cleaned up with a brush or an Erase tool.

    Like I said I hate to be a prude but Axanthic's keepers have a hard enough time proving the color of their animals without people intentionally doctoring their photos.
  • 11-17-2010, 09:58 AM
    Freakie_frog
    It's altered..

    Next time you try an pull one over on us..make sure you don't monochrome the rats toes with the snake. Plus center of the pic bottom..you missed a spot
    http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/P1010082.jpg

    Heres a Real VPI Axanthic for you to see what they really look like at that size

    http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...c/DSC_0046.jpg
  • 11-17-2010, 11:03 AM
    MitsuMike
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post

    I don't know anything about photoshop but it seems weird that the snakes eye is blue.......could be the flash and if so, you have one hell of a keeper!! Never seen one that gray without browning out.
  • 11-17-2010, 11:18 AM
    spitzu
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    Wouldn't know it by the weather lately! They keep teasing us with snow predictions and then it never comes. I'm in the south part of the city, too...so it shouldn't be hit as hard as the north gets it. Still...yeah...I'm not too eager to get out there and test my ice-driving!

    It was snowing a bit earlier than this last year, but it will start to pick up soon. In the meantime, I'm loving the current weather. It was gorgeous yesterday!
  • 11-17-2010, 12:19 PM
    h00blah
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Plus center of the pic bottom..you missed a spot


    haha god catch XD! i had to pull it up and look at it and you are right! small portion of what appears light brown XD
  • 11-17-2010, 12:44 PM
    sarahlovesmiike
    If you hadn't photo shopped it I would say nice snake! 'Cause the spot you did miss is actually very pretty in my opinion, though I'm not very good at picking out what makes the nice axanthic.
  • 11-17-2010, 03:06 PM
    muddoc
    While I will refrain from commenting on enhancing or not, I would say breed the two together. The cross that they make is amazing.
  • 11-18-2010, 09:43 AM
    steveboos
    Now i see how it was altered, still a nice looking snake. But yeah we all wish Axanthics stayed that color their whole life, but they brown out a lot. Good job, had most of us fooled.
  • 11-19-2010, 05:04 AM
    ballpythonluvr
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    That axanthic is just beautiful! I love these snakes because they are just exceptional looking!
  • 11-20-2010, 01:03 PM
    Danounet
    Re: VPI Axanthic and Enchi grubbing!!
    While a young axanthic is something to see in person, just like a young red tail neonate. Their colors change as they age. There is no way an axanthic of that size has that much high contrast... :colbert:
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