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Desert male or female?..

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  • 11-09-2010, 12:20 PM
    shaunwithbite
    Desert male or female?..
    if you have the option of getting a desert ball python.. is it better to get a male.. or a female ?..
  • 11-09-2010, 12:27 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    For me it all depends on what I already have and what I plan to produce. Figure out what would fit into your plans better. Maybe you want to make a desert clown, then it would be better if you got a female. Maybe you want to make a pastel desert, then it would be best if you got a male.

    If it were me, I'd get a female.
  • 11-09-2010, 12:55 PM
    shaunwithbite
    that is true.. so actually depends on our target..:)
    if i can get a male.. i can experiment with the other females... experiment with other mixtures.. :) then again... i still need more female in for breeding.. :) desert clowns should be very interesting.. :D ohh mann... :confused:
  • 11-09-2010, 12:58 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Or you could be bad and get both! :O ....:D
  • 11-09-2010, 01:30 PM
    mumps
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    I am in the same situation. I'm really geared up for obtaining a desert, and the male/female scenario opened up.

    I figured by obtaining a male, it would be ready to reproduce a year sooner than if I got a female. I could mate him with multiple morphs (mostly dom/co-dom and combos), and retain the females I get from those pairings.

    We're still relatively young in the desert combo game, so while they are still rather pricey, the options available to those who make the investment should certainly see a reward.

    I personally just love the results I've seen so far and want to produce some of these beauties for myself.

    Chris
  • 11-09-2010, 02:21 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shaunwithbite View Post
    if you have the option of getting a desert ball python.. is it better to get a male.. or a female ?..

    Male ;)
  • 11-09-2010, 02:21 PM
    Sarin
    I'd go with male. He'd be ready sooner and you can hold back any females you produce, as well as get a head start in projects.

    Just my $0.02. :)
  • 11-09-2010, 03:41 PM
    DemmBalls
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    Male - You can run him through multiple females in a year and start way more projects than if you only got a female!
  • 11-09-2010, 04:26 PM
    mainbutter
    It depends on the quality of your current collection.

    If you're low on high-value male breeders, get a male. If you've got a dozen average quality pastel males and only two females, yeah you're a bit male-heavy, but then again you probably still would seriously benefit from a high quality male breeder.

    I always believe that if you're going to throw down over $1000 on a female, you're going to benefit greatly if you can spend as much if not more on a male to pair her with.

    If you've got at least one combo male, even just a bumblebee, it might be worth it to get a female desert. Triple and quad trait ball pythons that carry the desert trait are almost always pretty spectacular, and powerhouses for breeding potential.
  • 11-09-2010, 07:54 PM
    jjmitchell
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    Im hoping to be ableto buy a male next year and put him to several females
  • 11-10-2010, 12:29 AM
    shaunwithbite
    My current situation:
    Female that will be ready next year:
    2 butters, 1 lesser platinum, 1 bumblebee, 1 lemon blast, ...

    Just hatch out a killer blast, bumblebee, spinner, killer bee which I suspect is a female.. But I have to double check on... ... If they are all females maybe is better to get a male...
  • 11-10-2010, 12:32 AM
    shaunwithbite
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    It depends on the quality of your current collection.

    If you're low on high-value male breeders, get a male. If you've got a dozen average quality pastel males and only two females, yeah you're a bit male-heavy, but then again you probably still would seriously benefit from a high quality male breeder.

    I always believe that if you're going to throw down over $1000 on a female, you're going to benefit greatly if you can spend as much if not more on a male to pair her with.

    If you've got at least one combo male, even just a bumblebee, it might be worth it to get a female desert. Triple and quad trait ball pythons that carry the desert trait are almost always pretty spectacular, and powerhouses for breeding potential.

    This really open my eyes to the possibilities ... Thanks ! :gj:
  • 11-10-2010, 12:48 PM
    Ace of Snakes
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    100 % get a male. Male, Male, Male!!!!!!!!!!
  • 11-10-2010, 12:51 PM
    mdjudson
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    agree with everyone else... definitely go with a male
  • 11-10-2010, 01:18 PM
    JayCee
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    If I was going to buy a desert, it would definitely be a female. Males start depreciating significantly the moment you buy them, probably somewhere near50% a year. Females, on the other hand, actually increase in value from hatchling up until near breeder size. They hold their value well for awhile but will eventually depreciate, just at a MUCH slower rate than males.
  • 11-10-2010, 03:17 PM
    Totally Morphed
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JayCee View Post
    If I was going to buy a desert, it would definitely be a female. Males start depreciating significantly the moment you buy them, probably somewhere near50% a year. Females, on the other hand, actually increase in value from hatchling up until near breeder size. They hold their value well for awhile but will eventually depreciate, just at a MUCH slower rate than males.

    With Desert being the exception, with rumours of females taking an age to attain breeding weight, and/or not producing viable clutches.
    If someone hatches a killer super desert, you'll wish you had bought a female, but I'd stick with a male.
  • 11-10-2010, 03:45 PM
    BAMReptiles
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    For me it all depends on what I already have and what I plan to produce. Figure out what would fit into your plans better. Maybe you want to make a desert clown, then it would be better if you got a female. Maybe you want to make a pastel desert, then it would be best if you got a male.

    If it were me, I'd get a female.

    for a desert clown you would most def want a male, not a female

    the females take a good bit longer to reach breeding size than your average ball python.

    if you got a male you could breed to a female clown, take one of her desert het clown sons back to her/another clown and possibly have desert clowns within 3ish years

    if you got a female you'd have to wait at least 3 years before you could put a male clown to her then have to wait another 3 years to breed a female desert het from that clutch back to the father/another clown

    not to mention if you had a male desert you can plug him into all kinds of other morphs along the way

    just my .02
  • 11-10-2010, 03:46 PM
    pixie6710
    Re: Desert male or female?..
    go for a male cuz u can expariment and u can always breed him to a normal and try and get more desert ghost's u can play with;)
  • 11-10-2010, 04:44 PM
    BAMReptiles
    he is talking about a desert, not a desert ghost.

    desert is co-dom
    desert ghost is recessive
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