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  • 11-08-2010, 03:42 PM
    Russ Lawson
    More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Noticed one of these guys had pipped the other night on day 53, so I went and cut the rest of the eggs. First out were a normal and a lemon pastel. In the egg still looks like another normal, pastel, and 2 spiders (one of which might be a bumblebee).

    The bumblebee's father was 50% possible het hypo, but it doesn't look like I got any hypos in the clutch. Check out how light this pastel's head and blushing are just out of the egg though! I also like how the normal has a fair amount of blushing and flames, and a reduced pattern toward the tail. I'll get pics of the rest up as they emerge!

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...ypo01-06_1.jpg

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...ypo02-06_1.jpg
  • 11-08-2010, 04:38 PM
    llovelace
    Congrats :)
  • 11-08-2010, 05:06 PM
    shelliebear
    Pretty! :gj:
  • 11-08-2010, 05:25 PM
    PghBall
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Nice! Congrats!
  • 11-10-2010, 12:03 PM
    Russ Lawson
    Thanks guys! The spider and the bumblebee were both out of the eggs when I got home late last night, so I snapped some pictures of them this morning. Both appear to be males. Unfortunately there were no hypos in the clutch, so these guys are all 50% possible het. There's something interesting about the bumblebee that's pretty subtle in the pic. I'll see if anyone can pick it out. :cool:

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...ypo03-06_1.jpg

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...ypo04-06_1.jpg
  • 11-10-2010, 12:06 PM
    iCandiBallPythons
    really like the spiders pattern
  • 11-10-2010, 12:11 PM
    ballpythonluvr
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Great looking babies! Love the spider!
  • 11-10-2010, 12:29 PM
    txherp
    Gorgeous, congrats!
  • 11-10-2010, 03:52 PM
    PghBall
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    I like that bee....is it that line that runs across his head\neck that separates the two?
  • 11-10-2010, 04:50 PM
    Russ Lawson
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PghBall View Post
    I like that bee....is it that line that runs across his head\neck that separates the two?

    Thanks, that's not it though. What I'm talking about sticks out to me, but I guess that's because I know what I'm looking for. Check a bit over an inch north of that for what I'm talking about. ;)
  • 11-10-2010, 05:14 PM
    Russ Lawson
    Another male pastel out of the egg. Both my clutches so far this year have been pretty male heavy. :\ I really like the dark split in the blushing on his head though. Looks like a few of the offspring got aberrant head patterns thanks to the mom het ghost.

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...ypo05-06_1.jpg
  • 11-10-2010, 05:38 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Does the Bee have a small paradox spot?
  • 11-10-2010, 05:44 PM
    Russ Lawson
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Does the Bee have a small paradox spot?

    That he does! He's got a small spot with normal spider colouration a bit before the tail. It will be more visible in post-shed pics when I get them next week.
  • 11-10-2010, 06:26 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Sweet, can't wait for post-shed pics :)
  • 11-10-2010, 07:08 PM
    saber2th
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Very nice clutch! Congrats! :gj:
  • 11-10-2010, 07:35 PM
    Boanerges
    VERY nice!!!! Congrats :gj:
  • 11-10-2010, 08:45 PM
    seeya205
    That spider has an amazing pattern and the bee is just stunning! After a couple sheds, that bee will be glowing! Congrats!!!
  • 11-10-2010, 10:43 PM
    Russ Lawson
    Thanks everyone! I'm very happy with how these have turned out. The spider has a really nice pattern, and the bee looks like he's going to have some pretty bright yellow compared to the female I hatched in the first clutch. Last normal should be out of the egg by tomorrow morning!
  • 11-10-2010, 11:42 PM
    Russ Lawson
    The last normal came out of the egg. Looks like a female. Also, I have been double checking that spider and that one also looks like a female. Thought it was a male at first because it was trying to musk and I saw two red dots when it was doing that. Not sure what I saw, but I've yet to see a pene while popping that one. The rest (minus this normal) are definitely males though; I've double and triple checked all of them. I'll try the spider again after shed when there's a bit more resistance. Anyway, here's a pic of the last normal. Looks a fair bit lighter than the first one, and has a weird head mark like the mom (somewhat difficult to see in the pic).

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...ypo06-06_1.jpg
  • 11-11-2010, 06:07 PM
    Coils
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Hey, how are you? Finally got on the internet again to look at some stuff.

    hose two at the bottom are amazing! Congrats. Too bad he was a male and not female(bee) but I am still in love with the higher white on the sides. The spider I would kill to have just because the pattern is simply gorgeous! Good luck with all of them!
  • 11-11-2010, 06:42 PM
    chessfighter
    Beautiful Snakes
  • 11-11-2010, 06:43 PM
    chessfighter
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Beautiful snakes
  • 11-11-2010, 07:53 PM
    seeya205
    Does one of the parents have that awesome spider pattern too or is it just a luck of the draw for a spider pattern? I know it must be a spider to produce spiders! I just wanted to know if the pattern was genetic!
  • 11-12-2010, 12:53 AM
    Russ Lawson
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Coils View Post
    Hey, how are you? Finally got on the internet again to look at some stuff.

    hose two at the bottom are amazing! Congrats. Too bad he was a male and not female(bee) but I am still in love with the higher white on the sides. The spider I would kill to have just because the pattern is simply gorgeous! Good luck with all of them!

    Been all right, thanks. Yourself? I had a pretty busy day today due to birthday festivities; sorry I didn't reply earlier. Actually this bee looks like he won't have as high white as either the father or his half-sister from clutch 1, but he will make up for it in bright yellow colouration. This bee does seem to throw very nice spiders though. Quality breeds quality. :D

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by seeya205 View Post
    Does one of the parents have that awesome spider pattern too or is it just a luck of the draw for a spider pattern? I know it must be a spider to produce spiders! I just wanted to know if the pattern was genetic!

    I've attached the most recent picture I have of the bumblebee father, though it was from February if memory serves me correctly (and not the best picture of him). Also put up a picture of the first spider I got from him last year so you can compare to the spiders in this clutch (I no longer own this animal). From the father's pattern, I'd expect more breaks than on the spider in this clutch. However, I've yet to be disappointed with one of this guy's spider offspring though, as they all have been very nice. He seems to throw spiders with crossovers on the neck pattern, as opposed to dual striping some spiders get. I typically prefer spiders with the crossovers at the neck and single dark line going down the back with several breaks, though I have seen some nice ones with the dual striping. This sort of pattern is what I think when I think classic spider though.

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...08mbee01_1.jpg

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...der02-04_2.jpg
  • 11-12-2010, 02:07 AM
    seeya205
    Re: More Babies - 2010 Clutch 2 Hatching!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Russ Lawson View Post
    Been all right, thanks. Yourself? I had a pretty busy day today due to birthday festivities; sorry I didn't reply earlier. Actually this bee looks like he won't have as high white as either the father or his half-sister from clutch 1, but he will make up for it in bright yellow colouration. This bee does seem to throw very nice spiders though. Quality breeds quality. :D



    I've attached the most recent picture I have of the bumblebee father, though it was from February if memory serves me correctly (and not the best picture of him). Also put up a picture of the first spider I got from him last year so you can compare to the spiders in this clutch (I no longer own this animal). From the father's pattern, I'd expect more breaks than on the spider in this clutch. However, I've yet to be disappointed with one of this guy's spider offspring though, as they all have been very nice. He seems to throw spiders with crossovers on the neck pattern, as opposed to dual striping some spiders get. I typically prefer spiders with the crossovers at the neck and single dark line going down the back with several breaks, though I have seen some nice ones with the dual striping. This sort of pattern is what I think when I think classic spider though.

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...08mbee01_1.jpg

    http://www.russreptiles.com/images/g...der02-04_2.jpg

    They both have nice patterns! I also like the single neck line better even though my spider does have the double! Thanks for the info!
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