the whiter BEL from????

which in your opinion, creates the whiter/better or best BEL?
there we go

B is definitely my vote.

sorry never posted a poll before

Well the White Diamond is technically the whitest BEL, but Mojave/Russo's also look good. Super Mojaves and Butter/Butter, Lesser/Lesser with develop some coloration with age.

Now a Lesser Piebald is an All White Snake!!!!

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Now a Lesser Piebald is an All White Snake!!!!

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mmmmmmmmm.... BEL pied..... ::drooling::

The russoxrusso is the whitest, but a russoxlesser is a close second

The whitest BEL I saw in person was a Mojo x lesser, I think it's just the quality of animals you have and their bloodlines

I have two female blue eyed leucistics. One is a lesser X mojave, and she really pure white with no pattern at all. My other one is a white diamond (Russo X Russo), and she actually has pale yellow striping all the way down her spine. The rest of her is pure white, though. Has anyone else seen a white diamond with this pale stripe thing going on?

Spider peid is also I BEL if I remember right...

Are you sure you don't have your BEL's switched??

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Spider peid is also I BEL if I remember right...

Are you sure you don't have your BEL's switched??

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If this is directed to me, I am completely sure I don't have them switched. I got the white diamond first, and she always had the stripe. It hasn't faded or intensified with maturity.

To the OP, lesser/butter x lesser/butter hands down.

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Well the White Diamond is technically the whitest BEL, but Mojave/Russo's also look good. Super Mojaves and Butter/Butter, Lesser/Lesser with develop some coloration with age.

Now a Lesser Piebald is an All White Snake!!!!

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The russoxrusso is the whitest, but a russoxlesser is a close second

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you have it backwards, I have seen pictures online of white diamonds looking all white, but in person honestly, they have all had yellow lines. i have yet to see any lesser/butter x lesser/butter with any color tho.

hey for a change im aloud to post a picture, i took this last year at tinley... pied lesser with color coming through....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...piedlesser.jpg

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The whitest BEL I saw in person was a Mojo x lesser, I think it's just the quality of animals you have and their bloodlines

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while there are some pure white looking mojo x lesser/butters. there are some with dirty'd heads and yellow tint.

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Spider peid is also I BEL if I remember right...

Are you sure you don't have your BEL's switched??

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some spider pied have head pattern, also their eyes are normal as far as i know.

The whitest I have seen were Lesser/Lesser and butter/butter or Lesser/butter. Lesser pieds aren't always all white, they sometimes have some lesser pattern, and spider pieds have spider heads.

Here is a link to some spider pieds. Bumblebee pieds are similar but with a more beelike head.

http://www.dreptiles.com/pages/avail...thons2010.html

Ah... thanks for clearing that up with the peid x spider.. Those are cool looking though, crazy what spider genes do with other morphs!

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To the OP, lesser/butter x lesser/butter hands down.





you have it backwards, I have seen pictures online of white diamonds looking all white, but in person honestly, they have all had yellow lines. i have yet to see any lesser/butter x lesser/butter with any color tho.

hey for a change im aloud to post a picture, i took this last year at tinley... pied lesser with color coming through....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...piedlesser.jpg




while there are some pure white looking mojo x lesser/butters. there are some with dirty'd heads and yellow tint.



some spider pied have head pattern, also their eyes are normal as far as i know.

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yeah i have always thought lesserxlesser or butterxbutter make the most solid white.

but all the mojo BELS i have ever seen, have pattern and yellow hues.

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Ah... thanks for clearing that up with the peid x spider.. Those are cool looking though, crazy what spider genes do with other morphs!

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There has been a pure white spider pied bye the way, but most have the spider head.

I've seen a lot of people (not just this thread) say the super russo white diamond is the whitest for reasons unknown to me, but I've yet to see one without the yellowish stripe down the back. If you're talking just in the BEL complex, the whitest I've seen was a super butter. Lesser pieds are just as white, but a bit more difficult to make and run the chance of having spots like shown above. Solid white spider pieds (aka white wedding) seem to be even more difficult to get, and I wouldn't even consider them a BEL because they have black eyes and red pupils. They look more like a solid white super fire than anything else. I have heard of at least three of these being produced.

I thought russo was but that was from say not seeing.. still havn't gotten a chance to see a white diamand in person..

You forgot the Karma (Phantom/Mystic to Lesser/Butter).

My avatar is my Russo/Lesser leucy and he's pretty darn white. No other color on him at all. I vote white diamond or Russo/Lesser - Russo Butter.

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I thought russo was but that was from say not seeing.. still havn't gotten a chance to see a white diamand in person..

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My avatar is my Russo/Lesser leucy and he's pretty darn white. No other color on him at all. I vote white diamond or Russo/Lesser - Russo Butter.

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just google white diamond ball python and look at them or go to http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/ and check out his photos... their not pure white, that light colored stripe going down their back will most likely turn yellow.

To date the whitest BEL I've even seen was named Vivid and it was a Lesser X Mojave produced by NERD..I did hear that he developed a faint yellow stripe after he started breeding due to hormones..

This is him.. (pic property of NERD)
http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ima...ueeye/bel6.jpg

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You forgot the Karma (Phantom/Mystic to Lesser/Butter).

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holy crap i did!!!