is this line compatible with any others? im not seeing any SK axanthics for sale. whats up with this line?
11-05-2010, 11:24 PM
merdcme
Re: SK axanthic?
please excuse my stupidity:oops: TSK is what i should have said
i've heard people say they were compatible with VIP and the oppisite and the same with jollif. compatible?
11-05-2010, 11:37 PM
Valentine Pirate
I don't think any of the lines are compatible, at least not to my knowledge. There's also NERD, but I've always been told none of them can cross over. I wonder if anyone's ever done multiple line Axanthics....
11-05-2010, 11:45 PM
AaronP
Shoulda called me Ryan, I could have explained this to you.
There are 4 known lines of Axanthic:
VPI
NERD
Jolliff
The Snake Keeper
VPI & NERD's are the only ones that are compatible with each other.
Jolliff & Snake Keeper are not compatible with any other line besides themselves.
09-09-2011, 01:23 PM
Simplex
So by not compatible ehat does yhat exactly mean... Simply wont produce? Or wont make axanthics?? Normals only? Excuse my ignorance.
09-09-2011, 01:31 PM
Simplex
I just realize how old this thread is.. Oops
09-09-2011, 01:32 PM
wwmjkd
not compatible means that no axanthics would be produced. you would wind up with a clutch of double hets for different lines of axanthics, but all would be visual normals. the same applies to the albino and lavender albino lines.
09-09-2011, 01:43 PM
Simplex
Quote:
Originally Posted by wwmjkd
not compatible means that no axanthics would be produced. you would wind up with a clutch of double hets for different lines of axanthics, but all would be visual normals. the same applies to the albino and lavender albino lines.
Well learn something new every day. So 1.1 tsk would produce axanthics and the rest would be 100% het tsk axanthics right? But visual normLs.. Or would the het in the visual normals be a different pct
09-09-2011, 01:49 PM
kevinb
A pair of tsk or het tsk will produce tsk axanthic. Its a recessive morph so it works like any other recessive and the non visual axanthic are hets....unless dealing with het to het. Then they are 66% pos hets.
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09-09-2011, 02:03 PM
Simplex
Looking at a proven pair. Het tsk axanthic.
Wants 1200 CAD... Had last year off
09-09-2011, 02:06 PM
wwmjkd
Re: SK axanthic?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplex
Looking at a proven pair. Het tsk axanthic
if they're both het tsk axanthic, then they are compatible and you have a shot at producing tsk axanthics. depending on who you're buying from, I'd ask for pictures of the offspring to make sure they actually are hets. good luck.
09-09-2011, 02:23 PM
RyanT
TSK Axanthics are totally brown as adults and basically look like normals...Just FYI.
09-09-2011, 04:18 PM
kevinb
^ yes they do. I dislike how they look as adults.
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09-09-2011, 07:03 PM
Brandon Osborne
Re: SK axanthic?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplex
Looking at a proven pair. Het tsk axanthic.
Wants 1200 CAD... Had last year off
I paid $500 for a proven TSK axanthic directly from them in 2008. $1200 is high for a het pair proven or not. I saw a proven pair of VPI hets last week for $600. In my opinion $500 would be a better price for the animals you are looking at.
09-09-2011, 11:12 PM
decensored
Re: SK axanthic?
Quote:
Originally Posted by merdcme
please excuse my stupidity:oops: TSK is what i should have said
i've heard people say they were compatible with VIP and the oppisite and the same with jollif. compatible?
TSK, VPI, and NERD axanthics are not compatible with each other. The reason you don't see alot of TSK axanthics on the market is that it browns out more than any of the other lines. Personally I am playing around with a couple of pastel het. TSK axanthics which will be ready to breed soon. :D If your interested in TSK ax hatchlings send me a PM - I should have some early next year. (Sorry if I'm breaking forum rules).
Cheers.
09-09-2011, 11:14 PM
decensored
Re: SK axanthic?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplex
Looking at a proven pair. Het tsk axanthic.
Wants 1200 CAD... Had last year off
I just sold a pair of het. tsk axanthics for $300.00 - not worth 1200 (i really really wish they were).LOL
09-10-2011, 02:56 AM
kevinb
I actually read somewhere that the VPI and NERD lines are compatable....but idk.
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09-10-2011, 03:01 AM
kevinb
This add proves my thought...from the mouth of NERD themselves.
Oh! There you go - You learn something new everyday! I was always under the impression that none of the lines were compatible. That's really good to know - thanks :)
10-19-2011, 12:50 AM
JD Constriction
Re: SK axanthic?
I wanted to chime in just because I'm a big fan of the Axanthic gene and work solely with TSK.
I haven't heard of anyone doing a visual VPI axanthic to a visual TSK axanthic but would love to know the result. Until that time I don't know that anyone can say for 100% certain that they are incompatible (or any others aren't either). I do know that the Joliff and VPI lines are incompatible as there are Joliff het VPI axanthics available and visual to visual has been done.
I'm curious if there really are 3 incompatible lines of axanthic. If you think about it, it seems unlikely when you consider that any pastel from the wild or albino from the wild (and even toffee now) has been proven to be compatible. It seems strange IMO to have 3 100% incompatible lines of axanthic given how many things are allelic that are independent from one another.
I think just like pastels there are great examples of every "line" and it's all about selective breeding and breeding for the "look" you want. I have seen great examples of every line of axanthic that are silver and black as adults and not brown at all. I have also seen the opposite of every line.
I like the silver look myself so have tried to keep that in perspective when buying and/or holding back animals.
