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  • 11-03-2010, 11:36 PM
    sookieball
    Quick how much should i offer him!!
    Need help!

    How much should i offer someone for a 1200+gram female butter!!!

    would you think 1000.00 is to much or to little?
  • 11-03-2010, 11:38 PM
    sookieball
    faster people!!! negotiations are taking place as we type!
  • 11-03-2010, 11:48 PM
    sookieball
    well i offered 850... hopefully he doesnt throw his head back and laugh at me :-(
  • 11-04-2010, 12:01 AM
    steveboos
    Ehh depends on the quality, the seller, and the motivation to sell. I would think its an 08, so $1000 seems reasonable, but the seller might want more. I would just talk it over with them and see what their willing to do.
  • 11-04-2010, 12:05 AM
    sookieball
    Re: Quick how much should i offer him!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steveboos View Post
    Ehh depends on the quality, the seller, and the motivation to sell. I would think its an 08, so $1000 seems reasonable, but the seller might want more. I would just talk it over with them and see what their willing to do.

    i offered 850! i undershot! but i told him i would have to make payments and he just replied, "call me tomorrow to discuss it"!

    im not sure what year it is, most likley 08'.

    and he says he has a few, so... im dying here! im so excited that im actually
    willing to sell my kidney! lol:rofl:
  • 11-04-2010, 12:05 AM
    shaunwithbite
    especially a female... the bigger the older the higher the price.. :)

    good luck on your sale :)
  • 11-04-2010, 12:09 AM
    sookieball
    jesus! i might get in trouble with my husband, working on a deal without his approval!

    not to mention i promised no more snakes till we buy his big-screen plasma...


    but its a breedable butter, and i have a male pastel who's hot n' heavy right now with my female! and pastel butters are gorgeous!
  • 11-04-2010, 12:10 AM
    steveboos
    The Butter is not breed able yet, you don't want her to get egg bound. Also females might not even breed for a year or more after being moved, so don't get your hopes up too high.
  • 11-04-2010, 12:12 AM
    sookieball
    Re: Quick how much should i offer him!!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by steveboos View Post
    The Butter is not breed able yet, you don't want her to get egg bound. Also females might not even breed for a year or more after being moved, so don't get your hopes up too high.

    oh im sorry! i know about the weight and stuff! im just thinking too fast in general!

    i just hope he doesn't just laugh at me and say good luck...

    but (dont know his/her name) Area 51 Reptiles
    is offering me a female butter 1200 shipped... good price?

    i honestly was expecting to pay that much for one that size anywho.
  • 11-04-2010, 12:20 AM
    steveboos
    Well think about it this way. By the time that snake is ready to breed, it wll be about 1800 grams and just ready to go. A hatchling will cost you about $350, so you would need to wait 2 years for the baby, or wait a couple months to a year for the older one to be ready, but you can have a lot more eggs with a 2000+ gram female.

    These are the things i think of, it might be worth it to you, but personally, i wouldn't spend $1200 shipped on a female butter unless she was at least 1500 or 1600 grams.
  • 11-04-2010, 03:23 AM
    bones93
    I would say 1000 is in the ball park for that animal. She will be close to ready late this season if she is a good feeder. Could be a quick return for you or you may have to wait till next season. Either way I dont think you can go wrong with adding a big female to the collection. If you get it for 850 that in my opinion is a heck of a deal! Good Luck, its always fun negotiating deals.
  • 11-04-2010, 06:24 AM
    mattyboymr
    Not trying to rain on your parade...but what about quarantine too. I know its comming from a breeder...but shouldnt you still quarantine it?
  • 11-04-2010, 11:23 AM
    MitsuMike
    No wonder people can't sell animals worth a darn right now. A 1500 gram butter/lesser female if it's breedable or not is worth 1500+ dollars. I remember a year or so ago there was a discussion on this for Pastel females. And at that time the conclusion was the female pastel was worth a dollar a gram. It's sad because that animals people can't even sell of 700 bucks.
    If I were to ever let a female lesser go at 1500 gram, and I didn't see 2K from a buyer I would laugh and tell them to get lost.
    Offering 850 for a Butter female at 1200 grams is the biggest lowball I have even seen. People are selling SPIDERS for that price. 1200 is a steal so I would jump on it.
  • 11-04-2010, 11:57 AM
    TheReptileEnthusiast
    Re: Quick how much should i offer him!!
    If you feed a rat a week to a female for 3 years, thats 156 rats. Multiply that by the price you pay per rat. Add to that the original purchase price. Factor in the fact that hatchling pastel butters will be worth less in 3 years, so you won't be able to sell them for as much.

    Chances are you will get a bigger return on a breeder size female even if she doesn't breed until next year. That is why you seldom see large females for sale, and when you do they generally sell quickly for the asking price.
  • 11-04-2010, 09:37 PM
    JayCee
    Re: Quick how much should i offer him!!
    First ask yourself the question, why is someone selling a near breeding size female butter ??

    Likely answers:

    1) Seller is hard up for cash.
    2) Seller is working a scam.

    Make your offer with #1 in mind but don't let your eagerness for a deal make you forget #2.
  • 11-04-2010, 09:44 PM
    mdjudson
    I have a 1300 gram female lesser proven breeder and I would never her let her go for less then 2k. Also it is probably an 09. I have a few 09's that are between 1100 and 1400 grams.
  • 11-04-2010, 11:45 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Yeah, if I was selling a 1200g female butter, I wouldn't take less than $1500. If he's offering her for $1200, that's a good deal assuming she's 100% healthy, etc.

    Big co-dom females are wicked valuable. You can't make the supers without the females.
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