Extremely reduced-pattern BP

I'm not sure if this is a weird normal, or something else. I haven't been able to breed her yet because I had a terrible time getting her to eat until I figured out that she only likes medium-sized dark-brown ASFRs. You can see how thin she got in the 1st photo. She eats like a champ now.

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Her pattern is awesome. I'd love to see the outcome of her breeding trials. What are your plans for her?

Umm, no she isn't rare at all, send her to me for full examination!

Actually even Ralph Davis will tell you that very reduced normal ball pythons are quite rare and the one you have is very nice. granted the one on Ralph's page is INSANE, yours is still quite nice. No one wants to take the time to prove it out, so it very well could be genetic.

I bet she has an awsome pattern but the photos don't help at all to apreciate the pattern!! Please better pics....

to really make the call, we need better pics. full body shots etc. now it looks like a nice reduced but u cant really tell. so please post better pics

there are a few things that trp (true reduced patterned) balls have. to get and idea we need belly shots and head/ neck shots. u can also look at hunters guide to the morphs- he explains that very well there

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Originally Posted by steveboos

Umm, no she isn't rare at all, send her to me for full examination!

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I'll trade you for the one in your avatar photo. Nice snake!

Oh my goodness! What a nice looking snake!

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Originally Posted by JeffFlanagan

I'll trade you for the one in your avatar photo. Nice snake!

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Yeah i WISH i could have Ralph Davis's Calider that's in my avatar, but oh well...

She is AWESOME!

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Originally Posted by jsschrei

Her pattern is awesome. I'd love to see the outcome of her breeding trials. What are your plans for her?

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I hope to pick up a Lesser to pair her with when she's up to breeding weight. She's eating great now, but has a lot of catch-up to do, so she'll probably first be bred in the 2011/2012 season. For now I'm just happy that she's eating well and gaining weight back. I thought I might lose her.

That has to be the nicest normal I've ever seen! You've definitely got an awesome dinker project on your hands.

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Originally Posted by sarahlovesmiike

That has to be the nicest normal I've ever seen! You've definitely got an awesome dinker project on your hands.

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Thanks. I got lucky. A couple of years ago someone was selling her because they couldn't keep her as a pet anymore, and I had to have this unusual BP. She's been a challenge, but is doing well and is very mellow.

I would be THRILLED to have her in my collection!! A lesser would be a great pairing to start off with, as they have a tendency toward reduced patterns anyhow....could result in some awesomely wicked lessers!

That is an awesome snake. Feed her whatever she wants, and let us know what she produces when she does breed!

like that snake, good luck on the breeding

Oh yeah,

Lesser, enchi, spinner, clown... There is no end of the morphs I would love to see her paired with. :yes:

I think she would make a lesser spinner to die for. :dance:


dr del

Phenomenal example of a reduced pattern ball! I would love to have a female like that to add to some breeding's. Where on earth did you pick her up?

That is one beautiful snake ! Congrats on getting her to eat :) Would have been a real shame to loose such a gem :)

Nice! Somebody should work with this trait, as I think she is really pretty, all the best features of a normal BP but with a twist!

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

Phenomenal example of a reduced pattern ball! I would love to have a female like that to add to some breeding's. Where on earth did you pick her up?

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My records indicate she came from a breeder who's no longer in business. She's been with me for 3.5 years, and I'm not sure why someone parted with her at or near the price of a normal.

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Originally Posted by wstphal

Nice! Somebody should work with this trait, as I think she is really pretty, all the best features of a normal BP but with a twist!

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I'll post when she has hatchlings, but it'll be quite a while since she needs to gain a lot of weight.

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I'll post when she has hatchlings, but it'll be quite a while since she needs to gain a lot of weight.

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If she does have similar-looking babies, please save one for me! I'll happily become a repeat customer, since the transaction with Nerissa went so well... she's a pain in the arse feeder (like the reduced girl), but obviously you can't help that. ;)

Very unique pattern! I love reduced.

That's a really cool looking ball python :gj:

beautiful Ball

whoa
clear belly too

Extremely reduced patterned normals like that are way more uncommon than plenty of the $10k+ quad trait animals (which the ball python market will soon find out are over-produced to maintain anything close to that price IMO).

Gorgeous reduced pattern on that snake!

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Originally Posted by davidyun

whoa
clear belly too

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I know. Not at all like the rest of my normals, so I really hope to prove her out now that she's eating and gaining weight.

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Originally Posted by mainbutter

Extremely reduced patterned normals like that are way more uncommon than plenty of the $10k+ quad trait animals (which the ball python market will soon find out are over-produced to maintain anything close to that price IMO).

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Then I better keep her safe.
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thats a crazy patternnn...!!!.. :)

Beautiful reduced girl! In the 2nd pic on the red sheet, she somewhat resembles what I'd expect a very reduced leopard ball to look like...

I also want to be in line if she throws babies that look like that!!!:banana:

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Originally Posted by Russ Lawson

Beautiful reduced girl! In the 2nd pic on the red sheet, she somewhat resembles what I'd expect a very reduced leopard ball to look like...

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If she proves out, she's a much more extreme pattern mutation than the Leopards I found on Justin K's site. If it's not genetic, or she never produces, I'm still very happy to have such a nice snake in my collection.

Nice looking female Jeff. Good luck proving her out when she gets up to weight

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Originally Posted by JeffFlanagan

If she proves out, she's a much more extreme pattern mutation than the Leopards I found on Justin K's site. If it's not genetic, or she never produces, I'm still very happy to have such a nice snake in my collection.

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Jeff, I like your attitude :gj:

First, congrats on taking on such a difficult animal and bringing her around! She is definitely a beautiful ball.

Best of luck with her, and thanks for posting pics!

Chris