wow - what is that Ralph davis snake ?

Looks tunning ..

http://i51.tinypic.com/2ze04sk.jpg

There are numerous threads on this exact subject, he hasn't released to genetics yet, but if you read all his birthing records from 1999, you would know.

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Originally Posted by JibbaJabba

Looks tunning ..

http://i51.tinypic.com/2ze04sk.jpg

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He calls it flatline :P

Who cares anymore, the original wow factor wore off pretty fast for me. It's gonna cost $900,000 anyways LOL. I can't stand when people do that crap, just say what it is. He is obviously the first to produce it so just take the credit and fill in the rest of the herpers with the genetics...

I'd sincerely say it's gotta be not only Super pastel (because of the colors) Clown (because of the head pattern) and Genetic stripe (self explanatory)...but I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by Jsprofera

I'd sincerely say it's gotta be not only Super pastel (because of the colors) Clown (because of the head pattern) and Genetic stripe (self explanatory)...but I could be wrong.

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There is spider in there.......well I think so

I think Ralph calls it a Flateline because when you look at it your heart flatlines

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Originally Posted by Jsprofera

I'd sincerely say it's gotta be not only Super pastel (because of the colors) Clown (because of the head pattern) and Genetic stripe (self explanatory)...but I could be wrong.

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That was my exact thought when I saw it too. But being that it's Ralph Davis, it's probably got alittle more to it than that.

Ralph always has something up his sleeve:gj:

desert reduced killerclown^^

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Originally Posted by twitch

desert reduced killerclown^^

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Originally Posted by MikeV

I think Ralph calls it a Flateline because when you look at it your heart flatlines

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You mean when you look at the price tag :)

Personally I don't like the whole "I don't tell you what it is" thing - NERD does the same really .. I guess its just part of the game though :please:

Ralph doesn't produce snakes the way Kevin does.
Ralph's combos are not 5, 6, 7... genes.
I'm going to go with Enchi, Lesser, Clown.
Maybe not but that's what it looks like to me.
-Steven

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Originally Posted by steveboos

There are numerous threads on this exact subject, he hasn't released to genetics yet, but if you read all his birthing records from 1999, you would know.

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I did it dosen't look like an albino, axanthic or ringer to me. What did I miss?

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Originally Posted by stevenkeogh

Ralph doesn't produce snakes the way Kevin does.
Ralph's combos are not 5, 6, 7... genes.
I'm going to go with Enchi, Lesser, Clown.
Maybe not but that's what it looks like to me.
-Steven

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I bet you that Ralph has combos with 5, 6, 7... genes. I think that one of the biggest differences is that they each have there own unique flavors and I think that maybe Ralph keeps better records of what he's creating. Not for sure but it seams like Kevin just throws stuff together and doesn't keep very accurate records. Who knows it could just be a front that Kevin puts up. Besides they can't tell every one what every thing is or has in it. Those are secrets of the trade.
Most businesses take secrets of the trade very serious.

he made 3 of them this season

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Originally Posted by bman123

Who cares anymore, the original wow factor wore off pretty fast for me. It's gonna cost $900,000 anyways LOL. I can't stand when people do that crap, just say what it is. He is obviously the first to produce it so just take the credit and fill in the rest of the herpers with the genetics...

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Originally Posted by JibbaJabba

You mean when you look at the price tag :)

Personally I don't like the whole "I don't tell you what it is" thing - NERD does the same really .. I guess its just part of the game though :please:

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Why do they do it? So people won't come through in a few years and produce 30 of these animals that they put some much work into and control the market on and crash prices. I get that people like to own all these snakes, but as collectors we have to respect that these people do this for a living and do need to make money to keep popping out these absolutely ridiculous animals. Do I wish they'd reveal everything...of course I do, but I respect they're business(a smart one at that) to not do such.

I actually like the fact that Ralph keeps stuff under wraps.. Ever heard of theft in this business?..It happens. I dont blame anyone for keeping things on the DL

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Originally Posted by Jsprofera

I'd sincerely say it's gotta be not only Super pastel (because of the colors) Clown (because of the head pattern) and Genetic stripe (self explanatory)...but I could be wrong.

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I Will Add Desert ;) :gj:

Personally I don't see super pastel in there. I'm going to go with g stripe x desert x clown.

desert butter genetic stripe clown

I dont think ther is g-stripe in there. Desert clown and pastel clown has already been done and would thus be easy to combine. The desert clown has basically the same back pattern without the reduced head pattern. Pastel would turn up the yellow and pastel clowns have the reduced head pattern as well.
I think if someone had produced a G-stripe clown we would have seen that double recessive up for sale before this.

enchi, desert, clown

would a killerbee het clown x killerbee het clown be possible?
or maybe a enchi-bee het.?

It looks like what a bumblebee clown should look like imo considering what the spider clown looks like: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/clown-spider/

I guess there could be something else in it, but that's what I think it is.

super enchi, pastel, clown?

Google "champagne pastel calico ball python" and you will get an animal with a stripe similar to the one in the video (minus the neon yellow color). Hmmmm....

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Originally Posted by Russ Lawson

It looks like what a bumblebee clown should look like imo considering what the spider clown looks like: http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/clown-spider/

I guess there could be something else in it, but that's what I think it is.

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You're right! The spider clown's pattern looks really close but without the yellow. Maybe it is a super pastel spider clown! That yellow is really intense!

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Originally Posted by seeya205

You're right! The spider clown's pattern looks really close but without the yellow. Maybe it is a super pastel spider clown! That yellow is really intense!

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Eh, I'm thinking no on the super. The black is too dark. Were it super pastel in there I'd expect it to be a quite faded grey, and the yellow to be lighter.

Fire Pastel Super Enchi Clown (or spider)

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Originally Posted by dreese88

Why do they do it? So people won't come through in a few years and produce 30 of these animals that they put some much work into and control the market on and crash prices. I get that people like to own all these snakes, but as collectors we have to respect that these people do this for a living and do need to make money to keep popping out these absolutely ridiculous animals. Do I wish they'd reveal everything...of course I do, but I respect they're business(a smart one at that) to not do such.

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well put

Look at BHB's ad on fauna or other sites... he has a simular one there. It is just a different color. And I have seen clowns that are bread for reduced pattern have close the that stripe by it's self. SO I'm guessing.......

Reduced pattern clown, enchi and desert. But I still don't think that would get that yellow.. blah...




I WANT TO KNOW!!:please::please::please:

Look at worldofballpythons.com/morphs at the fire pastel super enchi. Add in spider.

i wonder if he'll trade my kindey and half my liver for that creature!? :gj::gj::gj::gj:

i dont drink and i ..... ok i drink but im young... ger..

okay so i was looking around for something that has that really intense banana yellow in it and i just realized that the dreamsicle that ralph produced also has that yellow in it soooo is there any possible way that he could have thrown a dreamsicle into the mix?

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Originally Posted by Mrgbb

okay so i was looking around for something that has that really intense banana yellow in it and i just realized that the dreamsicle that ralph produced also has that yellow in it soooo is there any possible way that he could have thrown a dreamsicle into the mix?

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I was thinking dreamsicle and the calider

yea forget dreamsicle.... i just looked at some hatchling dreamsicles and there like a crazy neon orange its nuts.... idk whatit is but ralph has been working with alot of deserts... and he finally produced his very first super stripe so maybe he got some stripe in there.... idk hopefully he posts a vid soon!:D:D:D

This thread better not die out.. lol.. once someone has info they need to post it HERE!:gj:

How about...Banana Spider Clown? :confused: Does Ralph even work with Banana's?

Bananas leave so little black in the pattern, I doubt there is any banana in there.

Enchi or Desert Spider Clown would be my guess.. But who knows what Ralph really has working over there.

Had to join to throw out my idea, if you go and look at his calider on youtube it has the same style striping so my guess it

Calico Spider with maybe a super pastel with some clown in there?

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Originally Posted by don15681

enchi, desert, clown

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im guessing super enchi super pastel spider clown. if not spider then desert for sure. we will all have to wait and find out.
if they all told the recipe then every mom and pop would be selling them next year. i am glad they dont spoil it all. keeps it interesting.
adam jeffery

LOL, yeah, evey mom and pop that happen to have two snakes of opposite sex with all those genes that are both het clown will be producing them next year. Getting all those codom genes combined with a recessive gene is no small undertaking.

I would say a super banana clown?? havent heard of any one producing a super banana.....

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Originally Posted by adamjeffery

if they all told the recipe then every mom and pop would be selling them next year.

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lol...doubtful...

im thinking platty,butter clown(reduced pattern clown or like pastl lavender reduced pattern clown and butter ? <----- this is the _____flatline______

Desert Super Banana Bird Eater.......Clutch #58 in 2007 Birthing Records.

There is NO Desert in there, we talked with a couple other breeders who talked with Ralph and he wouldn't tell what it was but he said there is no Desert in there. :gj: I'm thinking it's an Enchi Clown with another gene on top that he just proved out. :rolleye2:

This would be a sweet way to bring out some new morph. :) look what you could do with a ..... !