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I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
I have one UTH pad, that was intended for a 10 gallon tank.. that is now at the bottom of my 30 gallon... for my large ball python... she is about 3 foot... and the UTH pad is parallel with the hide on the warm side... that is.. that it is in the same direction and general shape of the hide... so it basically is directly under the hide... giving her hide a direct heated temp... I have a 100w Basking Spot Lamp at the cool end... to make up for the lack of heating pads... and to keep the ambient air temp of the tank decent... I have a random branch I got from petco for her to climb on (which she hasn't yet...) but she is not even a week old into my home... so... :D shes still acclimating... I was just wanting to know if hwo I have everything set up is okay...
I use Eco-Earth as a substrate... but I was thinking of switching to shredded newspaper?
I am constantly worried about her because I am afraid that I am doing something wrong.. but she just had her first meal... ate it wonderfully... and she is active when I hold her.. for short periods at a time... and she loves to hide and (sleep?) away most of the day under her log...
my biggest concern is humidty... i dont know if I am doing that right... I live in florida... so it is humid here in the first place... but... hm... ill post pictures soo let me know what you guys think :D
Another issue is that I have two possible water bowls... both ceramic... one is at least 3 times the size of the little blue one I have and she could fit her whole body in it... but i feel like it is "too" big so I put in a smaller blue one (that is in there now)... do u think its decent sized?
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Get rid of the log hide and use just one big water bowl and use two hides one on the hot side and one on the cold. ;)
sent by two homing pigeons!!
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
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Originally Posted by smoffler
Get rid of the log hide and use just one big water bowl and use two hides one on the hot side and one on the cold. ;)
sent by two homing pigeons!!
hehe what do you mean? like... the log is as big as she is... what woudl i use as a hide? is the log bad?
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leave the log and add some 99 cent store vines in the cold side. my snakes love playing in vines and plants in far side. i like your current hide just fine.. but thats just my oppinion
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Well it isn't completely concealed ill post a pic of the ones I use for my hatchings and a pic of my 29 gal setup for ya to kinda get an idea off of
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If she's already secure in the hide then I'd say keep it, but get another for the other side and black out three sides of your tank. At least black out the sides where the log hides are open to make it more secure.
Ditch the branches. If she climbs, she'll probably just fall.
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
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Originally Posted by jfreels
If she's already secure in the hide then I'd say keep it, but get another for the other side and black out three sides of your tank. At least black out the sides where the log hides are open to make it more secure.
Ditch the branches. If she climbs, she'll probably just fall.
well if thats the case... getting the same size log as the one on the warm side... and ditching the branch... there would not be much "movement" room in the cage... cause.. well the hide logs are big.. and shes pretty big and a bigger bowl would just complete it... is that a problem? or they dont really need "leg room"
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
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Originally Posted by smoffler
Well it isn't completely concealed ill post a pic of the ones I use for my hatchings and a pic of my 29 gal setup for ya to kinda get an idea off of
sent by two homing pigeons!!
I would appreciate it :D
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
how many hides to use depends on the snake, I have snakes that do just fine with no hides and some that need one. so use your best judgement on that one. the community suggests 1 on each end tho.
if your worried about humidity, cover up your screen top cept the part where the lightbulb is, can use just about anything but since you got a hot light, id use aluminium foil or something that won't melt or burn. bigger water bowl will also help. You can also use a spray bottle to spray water into the cage to up the humidity (usually do this when their shedding)
id take the stick out personally, i dont think the ball python would use it much, i think a shelf type of structure would be more suited for them if you really want to give them vertical room. but its really not needed.
the temp dial is way too high vertically, depend on what you have going on the temp can be 5 degree difference from middle of a glass tank to the bottom. measure temps at the ball python's level for more accuracy. and most of us will tell you the dial kind like that are junk anyways. I suggest a IR temp gun, you can get desent ones pretty cheap nowadays. you can also get a digital with probes.
Now most of the community will not agree with me on the humidity gauges, i say throw the stupid things away and just look at the cage. I mean i just look to see if its high med low or bone dry and adjust. looking at the walls of the cage and the substrate you can tell, heck you can tell by feeling the air when you first open the cage. but most will tell you get a humidity gauge, so don't listen to me lol.
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They don't have legs. LOL! Just kidding...
But, you need to take out as much "air space" as you can so that your bp will not feel too "exposed" from above and from the sides. So, yeah, blacking out the sides is a great idea - you can use construction paper or corkboard (also helps with insulation) or one of those aquarium background thingees if you want it to look "pretty".
Here's my 10 gallon set-up for my bp. She stayed here until she hit 800 grams. Then I moved everything out to a 20 gallon long and just swapped out the hides for bigger ones. If you notice the water bowl is big enough for her to completely submerge her body in. The hides are "dome" hides that only have one opening - also for security. It's very dark under there.
Also, notice there is not much "air space" or "leg room". It's all covered up with "clutter". The snake will slither in and out of cramped spaces - that's how they prefer it - so they can feel less "exposed" and more secure.
Also, you might start thinking of investing in a digital thermometer/hygrometer with a probe instead of those dial gauges. I live in Florida too and the humidity can get down to less than 10% in the winter time. You would want a proper hygrometer to monitor that so you can try to raise it up to around the 55% range. There's lots of ideas in these forums to help you with that, just do a search on humidity or something. Also, if you don't have a thermostat yet, you might want to think about getting one as well.
Nice looking snake! Congratulations! It's not too difficult to keep these guys. Just the initial set-up is a bit hairy, but after you get it down pat, it's all just "enjoy, enjoy, enjoy" and not much hard work after that... not like a dog or something, where you have to walk them daily, feed them daily, give them constant attention, etc. etc. etc. Snakes are pretty cool with very few interaction with humans. LOL.
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P.S. It seems like you got a 30 gallon "tall" tank. I'm guessing the floor dimensions on that is 30" x 12"? This is the same floor dimensions as a 20 gallon long tank, I believe, which is not designed for fish (it is too short - only 12 inches tall). The height of the tank really doesn't matter as much as the floor space. But, if that's a 30"x12", it should be big enough for the life of your snake, unless she gets to be like a 4000 gram one... then you might have to move her to a 30 gallon long tank which is 36" x 18" floor space. But, that's down the road...
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Updated
Here is an updated image of her cage right now... and her fully stretched out going from one side to the other...
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
Based on your other thread I would suggest you make sure the top is secure. :D Other wise it looks fine.
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
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Originally Posted by tonkatoyman
Based on your other thread I would suggest you make sure the top is secure. :D Other wise it looks fine.
hehe I just secured it :D and this is her NEW updated cage... I went out and bought a bunch of stuff cause idk... I just hope its all right... let me knoww what you (and everyone) thinks of her most recent cage :D
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Alot better!!
sent by two homing pigeons!!
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
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Originally Posted by smoffler
Alot better!!
sent by two homing pigeons!!
thank you!!! I appreciate your and everyones help :D I like this community :D
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Much better! Can the water bowl go back any further?
I forgot to give you the link to this earlier....
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...p-w-pics-*DUW*
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
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Originally Posted by jfreels
by go back any further, do you mean towards the glass that would be where a human is standing looking in? or away from the glass towards the backdrop?
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
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Originally Posted by Trey Yeoman
by go back any further, do you mean towards the glass that would be where a human is standing looking in? or away from the glass towards the backdrop?
and your link was wonderful :D great guide! :D
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Re: I would like this communities opinion on my bp's tank set up (pics included)
Your tank is looking good. The only thing I would suggest is sliding the water bowl forward against the front glass and here is why. If your snake is asleep in one of the hides and you reach in there to get the water bowl for cleaning/filling and accidentally startle the snake...
Let me put it this way. I learned a valuable lesson early on about sticking your hand in front of a sleeping snake to pick up their water bowl and having them suddenly wake up...
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