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  • 10-24-2010, 05:35 PM
    loonunit
    Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    It doesn't get me any closer to a panda pied, but it's adorable.

    http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1g-0d-dBQWk/TM...0/IMG_3284.JPG

    http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1g-0d-dBQWk/TM...0/IMG_3285.JPG

    Does anybody have any suggestions? The black pastel was all over that pied last winter, when she was 900 grams and way too small. But now that she's up to size, he's lost his mojo.

    I already tried throwing the het pied male in there to spice things up, and all that got me was three snakes cozying up under the hide instead of two. No locks anywhere. Any other ideas I can try?
  • 10-24-2010, 07:28 PM
    zues
    Not sure if it matters or not, but I would lose the hide. In my experience if I leave the hide in the cage the snakes just lay in the hide. When there is no hide they tend to explore more and I seem to get more locks.
  • 10-24-2010, 07:49 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Is he producing sperm plugs? If not he is not wanting to get his mojo on :P.If he is producing them take one and place it on the females back to intice him into thinking another male is trying to take his time with her away.
  • 10-24-2010, 09:43 PM
    loonunit
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Is he producing sperm plugs? If not he is not wanting to get his mojo on :P.If he is producing them take one and place it on the females back to intice him into thinking another male is trying to take his time with her away.

    He was producing them last winter, and he's over 1000 grams right now--the pied girl is 1500 grams, and you can see he's not too much smaller. If he's not making plugs, what does that mean? That it's just too early in the season still?
  • 10-24-2010, 09:50 PM
    Freakie_frog
    as early in the "Season" as it is I wouldn't worry your male is a year older and sometimes that can cause them to slow down as they get older..

    1. Remove the hide
    2. Mist them an hour or so after you pair them
    3. pair the day after feeding
    4. cool your males down alittle more
  • 10-24-2010, 11:44 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    He was producing them last winter, and he's over 1000 grams right now--the pied girl is 1500 grams, and you can see he's not too much smaller. If he's not making plugs, what does that mean? That it's just too early in the season still?

    Well it might take him a little longer to remember what he is supposed to be doing this year.If you pop him it should show if he is producing sperm plugs yet :gj:
  • 10-25-2010, 11:52 AM
    BallPython17
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Just give him some time. Maybe the second time you pair them up something will happen. Or maybe he like's to cuddle before he gets his groove on. lol
  • 10-25-2010, 04:16 PM
    loonunit
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    ARG, almost! Almost! C'mon, George, you can do it...

    http://lh3.ggpht.com/_1g-0d-dBQWk/TM...0/IMG_3289.JPG

    ... I took the hide out, and the het pied male. I think George flubbed this one too, but at least it looks like he's got his mojo back on.

    This actually is his second pairing of the season. I paired them two weeks ago, and I swear the pied was more into him than he was into her--she kept flicking him and sticking her head under his coils. Then he went into shed, and she was actually only 1450 grams, so I thought I'd give them both some time off. But both of them refused food this week, and we had a cold snap over the weekend.

    And every one else has locks to show for it! WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT, GEORGE?
  • 10-25-2010, 04:19 PM
    Freakie_frog
    He can be locked in her like that
  • 10-25-2010, 05:11 PM
    loonunit
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    He can be locked in her like that

    Really! Really?

    (Am I just worrying too much?)
  • 10-26-2010, 01:44 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    Really! Really?

    (Am I just worrying too much?)

    Yes so relax and let nature take its course :gj:.
  • 10-26-2010, 02:02 PM
    loonunit
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    YES WE HAVE A LOCK. A nice, obvious lock, tails under and over. In a totally inconvenient, hard to photograph place. BUT IT'S A LOCK. :D Congratulations to George the black pastel on getting his mojo back.

    So, yes, I was worrying too much!
  • 10-26-2010, 02:06 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post

    So, yes, I was worrying too much!

    It's easy to do :)
  • 10-26-2010, 08:05 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by loonunit View Post
    YES WE HAVE A LOCK. A nice, obvious lock, tails under and over. In a totally inconvenient, hard to photograph place. BUT IT'S A LOCK. :D Congratulations to George the black pastel on getting his mojo back.

    So, yes, I was worrying too much!

    Just think eventually you will get eggs THEN more stress :P.See just relax :gj:
  • 10-28-2010, 08:58 PM
    loonunit
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons View Post
    Just think eventually you will get eggs THEN more stress :P.See just relax :gj:

    Do we get frequent flier miles for posting every other day freaking out because our snakes have't ovulated/have't laid/haven't hatched? We should probably have some kind of awards program for freaked-out first-time breeders.
  • 12-15-2010, 12:40 PM
    loonunit
  • 12-15-2010, 01:10 PM
    DC Reptiles
    awesome, congrats. I got my piebalds to lock twice this year, I'm keeping my fingers crossed, this is my first season so I can't wait to see what I produce.
  • 12-15-2010, 02:52 PM
    Serpent_Nirvana
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    [*]pair the day after feeding

    Quick clarification -- I have read a few times to pair the day after feeding the female, but not the male. I generally give the boys at least two days to digest after feeding before putting them back. Do you recommend pairing the day after the male has eaten, as well?

    Loonunit, that's a nice pied you got there :)
  • 12-15-2010, 03:04 PM
    LadyOhh
    Congrats, Jackie!!! :)
  • 12-15-2010, 10:53 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Awesome!!! He looked like he had it figured out in your sudo lock picture. I love the first couple pics with their heads together! SOOOOOO cute!
  • 12-15-2010, 11:16 PM
    BPelizabeth
    It was the barry manilow you were playing huh....:P
  • 12-19-2010, 09:19 PM
    jamesa2580
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Awesome. Congrats! I don't know how long he took with his first lock, but I've heard from more than a few people that pieds are just lazy :) I guess they take their sweet time and have no real sense of urgency as a general personality trait. You'll have to let us know as a pied owner if you agree.
  • 12-19-2010, 09:38 PM
    loonunit
    Re: Sure, whatever, that's adorable.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamesa2580 View Post
    Awesome. Congrats! I don't know how long he took with his first lock, but I've heard from more than a few people that pieds are just lazy :) I guess they take their sweet time and have no real sense of urgency as a general personality trait. You'll have to let us know as a pied owner if you agree.

    The pied is the female in this case! But George (the black pastel male) did take a solid week or two to get a good lock. (And then several more to lock in such a way that I could photograph it.)

    re: lazy pieds... I have more than one pied, and I can state for a fact that they're not all lazy. They're not all slow growers, either!

    But the girl pictured here is a lazy one. In fact, she may very well be in the running for The World's Laziest Animal. It's kind of amazing.
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