Price Differences

*I am not discussing the sale of any particular animal, just general market values*

Does anyone else think its odd how a labyrinth albino burm can go for under 300 but albino anything ball would be through the roof?(in comparison)

One factor may simply be demand. There are many more folks out there with the ability to house and care for a ball (or multiple balls) than folks that can house and care for even a single burmese.

If there were as many Albino Ball combo's running around as there are albino Burms the price wouldn't be much different.

things that help determine price are things like Number of eggs laid, of balls a big clutch is 10-15 for burms 20-30 is an average.

Albino Burms have been around since the 70's or 80's Albino Ball's since the early to mid 90's

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Albino ball combos are much harder to make. You may only get 4 to 6 eggs with balls compared to 20-60 + with burmese pythons. Theres a higher demand for ballsbecause there more of a "pet snake". burms cost more to feed and house and like I said they have a lot more babies and with everyone breeding them there prices are not going to stay high forever. Labyrinths have held there prices for a while now though. The albino labs have seemed to start getting cheaper but regular labs are still pretty firm at 300 + depending on genetics and apperance

I see. I assume it also probably has to do with there being less burm morphs, making them less rare. Also it seems to me that many people are mixing two or three morphs in a burm clutch, more so than people breeding for base morphs. Therefor making combos more common.

Is labyrinth codom or dom?

Like most burm mutations, labyrinth is recessive...

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Originally Posted by Russ Lawson

Like most burm mutations, labyrinth is recessive...

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Thank you, I had no idea.

Do I find that strange?

No.

Supply vs. Demand. It really is that simple.

Burmese pythons mature earlier, reproduce more readily, and produce a greater number of offspring per clutch.

Burmese pythons also suffer from a lack of popularity with the average herper due to their size as well, which puts them at a definite disadvantage price wise.

Also, the government is attacking the "large constrictor" market with a vengeance. Many people don't want to buy burmese pythons right now because they fear the repercussions.

I personally love burms, and put them much higher on my list of personal favorites than the ball python.

Hope that answers your question.

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Originally Posted by tomfromtheshade

Also, the government is attacking the "large constrictor" market with a vengeance. Many people don't want to buy burmese pythons right now because they fear the repercussions.

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What repercussions could there be? I don't imagine breeders being very adamant on betraying their customers if Uncle Sam came calling. And unless you told your insurance company, which is a bad idea(they'll just unnecessarily drive your payments up), there wouldn't be any proof of owning a big snake. Unless of course gov't agents went door to door.

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Originally Posted by Gibber19

What repercussions could there be? I don't imagine breeders being very adamant on betraying their customers if Uncle Sam came calling. And unless you told your insurance company, which is a bad idea(they'll just unnecessarily drive your payments up), there wouldn't be any proof of owning a big snake. Unless of course gov't agents went door to door.

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I was talking more about having to pay hefty fees for ridiculous permits and such, but our government is filled with socialist scum bags so I wouldn't put anything past them.

Or there's folks that actually follow the law so that they don't get into trouble, possibly resulting in losing all the animals they own, regardless of species, getting the hobby into more trouble by being a bad example the opposition can hold up and point at, not to mention the possible fines and/or jail time depending on the law/location/level of offense. All it takes is one disgruntled former friend, an angry ex- of a friend or you, a neighbor who happens to find out through happenstance... and you're busted and the authorites wouldn't have a choice to just let you pass, just because hey, you're a good guy and REALLY like your pet.

Everyone has pretty much hit on all the points. If ball pythons laid 40 eggs in a clutch, we'd see much lower prices too. In a given area, you could breed for albino balls for a few years without filling the LOCAL demand for them. But you could easily fill all the slots and have leftovers if you bred a burmese, due to lower demand/appropriate homes and number of albinos produced in a single clutch. So the price goes lower to try to entice buyers... and then you have low priced burm morphs.

Im going to have some money to invest in some animals in a few months and I REALLY want to invest in caramel burmese pythons. But im terrified to becasue theres so many laws going around on them.

Burmese pythons are banned in Florida. That's an entire state that can't buy one. Not even a permit will get you past the ban.

The only people allowed burms here are those who owned their burms and have permits in 2009 and prior.

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Originally Posted by Denial

Im going to have some money to invest in some animals in a few months and I REALLY want to invest in caramel burmese pythons. But im terrified to becasue theres so many laws going around on them.

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Couldn't imagine missing out on caramel!

I was actually planning to move to florida until they went all crazy and made all those crazy laws.

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Originally Posted by anatess

Burmese pythons are banned in Florida. That's an entire state that can't buy one. Not even a permit will get you past the ban.

The only people allowed burms here are those who owned their burms and have permits in 2009 and prior.

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Not true - from FWC's website:

"Reptile dealers, researchers and public exhibitors may apply for a permit to import or possess conditional snakes and lizards. "

http://myfwc.com/WILDLIFEHABITATS/No...alReptiles.htm

Albeit, it is now impossible for a hobbyist or private pet owner to get them here, the FWC will issue permits to anyone who qualifies as any of those they listed. I would still personally like to move to a state where the rules are less strict, though.

then come on down to sc. We can own pretty much anything other then american alligators