Picking up late 09 male pastel

This will be my first morph. Buying it from a friend/breeder. I have a normal female at home already. If bred together, what can I expect from a male pastel and female norm?

you can expect statistically
50% Pastels
50% Normals

Yeah half and half, just remember that since there are so many different degrees of Pastels, that you could produce some that look like normals, also some that are very light as babies brown out a ton as they age. Just make sure it's a good quality pastel, cause you'll have a lot of trouble selling low quality pastels since everyone has them.

I'll post pics when I get home. Let me know what you think of it

The odds are per egg not per clutch so that is a 50/50 chance per egg!

Cool, I don't really care, either way I'd be happy, all normals I not. It would just make me happy for my first time to have a healthy clutch!

Here is the pics of him, he's in shed so kinda dull.http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KpbHPBsGTPk/TL...M8/s512/p2.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_KpbHPBsGTPk/TL...512/pastel.jpg

He is pretty brown for a one year old pastel! He does have a nice pattern though!

Is he worth buying for $100?

That is one heck of a browned out ball python, i would pass. That definitely looks like one of those craigslist specials where someone sells their very low quality pastel cause they got bored of it.

I wouldn't do it, cause honestly, even though hes in shed, hes still a very low quality pastel. Spend your money well on a pastel with better colors.

I would almost consider him a normal due to the low amount of yellowing on the belly. Save up and you could even get a Super Pastel for like $350-400 for a male and have an amazing snake!

Well I was originally looking into buying another norm but then seen this guy for same price. So I dunno if I should just look for another norm or buy this guy for same price.

Unless you need a female, a male adult ball python would only be like 30-50 dollars on fauna or the local craigslist. I would easily pay $100 for a large female normal, but definitely not a male. Get a really nice adult or juvenile normal instead of overpaying for that "pastel".

Decided not to go with it. Thanks everyone for the help.

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Originally Posted by steveboos

Unless you need a female, a male adult ball python would only be like 30-50 dollars on fauna or the local craigslist. I would easily pay $100 for a large female normal, but definitely not a male. Get a really nice adult or juvenile normal instead of overpaying for that "pastel".

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Really didn't wanna sound like a moaning minnie on here but you;ve been nothing but a douche on this thread!

I know youre trying to help him out but have you ever owned a pastel? Don't tell me that they never brown out. I get where you're coming from where there are different lineages such as graziani, lemon, etc, we're in Canada and unfortunately it would cost us an arm and a leg for one, one top of them the OP just told you that hes a buddy of mine, so theres your answer for "Craigslist SPecial". He's posted as a pastel price, but i'm hooking him up with a deal.

Alos, take a look at your snakes next time they're in shed, and remember how they look before making stupid comments like you were. If you think hes a low quality pastel, and all he'll make is "normal" looking pastels, sorry you need to do a bit more breeding....or any at all :colbert:

Here he is after his bad shed
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...neg/pastel.jpg

i'll post some pics of his bumble bee clutch mates in a bit....

I also live in Canada and I paid $350 for my female pastel, she is Graziani line from Markus Jayne! Pastels of good quality do still brown a little over a couple years but not after one year! It would make a nice pet but not a nice breeder! A $100 is cheap for a pastel in Canada! A male baby usually goes for $200!

Dr.Del - Moaning Minnie! Who talks like that? LOL!

Heh,

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Dr.Del - Moaning Minnie! Who talks like that? LOL!

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Tired Scotsmen at midnight trying desperately to think of something family friendly using a brain unsuited to the task. :P


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Is that really such a bad pastel? I hear everyone saying "high quality pastel" but I only seem to see brown adults and light brown adults. Lol

Yeah I'm not seeing anything special on this one either, even though you said he's in shed. Still if you want a pastel save up for a better one. I mean everyone has their one taste its up to you, if you like you like! ;)