Sable x (I totally forgot what I paired her with)...

I need a little ID help :/

I could be the first one, but perhaps there are others out there that have totally forgotten what they paired a female with.

All I can remember was pairing my sable female with about 4 different co-dom males, but for the life of me, I totally forgot who and when, etc.

Anyhow, she gave me 5 eggs, 2 of which went bad, and I ended up with this:

http://b-p.org/snakes/sable_clutch.jpg

Thanks for the help.

Hi,

What day are they on?

Colour is the last thing to develop so you may have to wait until they leave the egg ( and maybe even after their first shed ) before you can take an educated guess.


dr del

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

What day are they on?

Colour is the last thing to develop so you may have to wait until they leave the egg ( and maybe even after their first shed ) before you can take an educated guess.


dr del

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Dr. Del, I agree. In fact I was having the conversation with a friend just now about color coming in last. Thanks :)

I am betting a Lesser was the daddy -- and looks to be a Sable Lesser??? :gj:

i have no clue but i do know that if that lil guy/gal up top came out with that exact same color i would definitely want it thats an amazing snake im not even gonna try to guess wat it is cuz im not really familiar with the sable morph

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Originally Posted by Bill Buchman

I am betting a Lesser was the daddy -- and looks to be a Sable Lesser??? :gj:

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Actually, at the time I didn't even own a lesser, so no :)

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Originally Posted by BPHERP

Actually, at the time I didn't even own a lesser, so no :)

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That was going to be my question what are the options unless the list it just to long to make of course. when you post some out of the egg pics give a list of potential mates.
PEACE

Can you tell us what males you bred her with?

As my title says, "I totally forgot what I paired her with" :)

COULD you have paired her with a sable male? Or a chocolate? It looks a bit like a super sable.

You need to tell us what males you had at the time in a breeding rotation.

You know the exact number of males you paired her with, but forgot the males :confused:

Interesting...

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Originally Posted by AjBalls

You know the exact number of males you paired her with, but forgot the males :confused:

Interesting...

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Actually, specifically, I said "...with about 4 different co-dom males" "about" meaning an estimate, plus or minus.

Record keeping FTW! :D

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Originally Posted by BPHERP

Actually, specifically, I said "...with about 4 different co-dom males" "about" meaning an estimate, plus or minus.

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Ok, So what codom males do you own? Hopefully you remember that at least. Is this thread meant to be a joke?

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Ok, So what codom males do you own? Hopefully you remember that at least. Is this thread meant to be a joke?

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No joke. I have about 15 different co-dom males. I made a mistake in record keeping.

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Originally Posted by BPHERP

No joke. I have about 15 different co-dom males. I made a mistake in record keeping.

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yikes all I can say is gorgeous so far and it's human nature no ones perfect but you'll have an awesome surprise!!!!!!

i think this is weird...:rolleyes:

so what are the 15 co doms u have. we have tons of co dom morphs out there so this thread would be 50 pages long with people suggestion something and u say no...

did u really forgot with what u paired her with? i mean u have 15 males (thats not so much), so u should at least have a slight clue what 4 males u breed her with.

just my $.02

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Originally Posted by joe23

i think this is weird...:rolleyes:

so what are the 15 co doms u have. we have tons of co dom morphs out there so this thread would be 50 pages long with people suggestion something and u say no...

did u really forgot with what u paired her with? i mean u have 15 males (thats not so much), so u should at least have a slight clue what 4 males u breed her with.

just my $.02

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Well, I think you are missing the point, and also over-blowing this post. I simply forgot what I paired her with and now you treat my as if I am suspect. I made a mistake, and I just wanted some opinions on genetics. Do not act holier than thou.

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Originally Posted by BPHERP

Well, I think you are missing the point, and also over-blowing this post. I simply forgot what I paired her with and now you treat my as if I am suspect. I made a mistake, and I just wanted some opinions on genetics. Do not act holier than thou.

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but what did u thought this thread would turn into?

u post pics of babies in eggs- the only hint is that the mother was a sable.

now u want to know what it could be.

what should we do now???

was it a mojo?
was it a sable?
was it a lesser
was it a spider?
was it a granite?
was it a special?

etc etc.

thats why i asked u what u have in ur collection and what u do think u breed her with.

not that big of deal imo.

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Originally Posted by joe23

but what did u thought this thread would turn into?

u post pics of babies in eggs- the only hint is that the mother was a sable.

now u want to know what it could be.

what should we do now???

was it a mojo?
was it a sable?
was it a lesser
was it a spider?
was it a granite?
was it a special?

etc etc.

thats why i asked u what u have in ur collection and what u do think u breed her too.

not that big of deal imo.

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OK, now that is a fair question...

If I had to guess and try and recall, the following might have been paired with her:

Mojo
Sable
Cinny
Pastel

Thanks :)

sorry if i came disrespectful to u. english is not my main language and i often sound rude by mistake.

just from the look of the babie in the egg on the top, i would think of cinnamon BUT the other babies have some pastelish pattern (at least i find they do).

do u owned a pewter to that time?

i just looked at a picture of a cinni sable. theyhave some similarities. so right now, i really think the top one could be a cinni sable. the bottom too look like pastels to me- im mean the color needs to jack in but the pattern and the look is there (at least in my book)

oh- and congarst to the clutch!

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Originally Posted by joe23

sorry if i came disrespectful to u. english is not my main language and i often sound rude by mistake.

just from the look of the babie in the egg on the top, i would think of cinnamon BUT the other babies have some pastelish pattern (at least i find they do).

do u owned a pewter to that time?

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No problem.

No, no Pewter.

I'd say Mojave.

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Originally Posted by LadyOhh

I'd say Mojave.

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Thanks for the reply Heather, appreciated.

By the way, do you still want to get in touch about you know what...

Okay, if you had a male sable in the collection, I'm guessing it's a super sable. Heather's guess is also good--I think you'll know better after it's hatched and colored up.

What are the odds of a multiple sired clutch? IF you paired a cinnie, pastel, mojo, and sable, you might have a sable pewter, or a sablecinnie, because the bottom 2 definitely have pastelish looks, and the top one does too, but more to it than pastel and sable. Very possible that there were multiple sires considering you put multiple animals in with her.

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What are the odds of a multiple sired clutch? IF you paired a cinnie, pastel, mojo, and sable, you might have a sable pewter, or a sablecinnie, because the bottom 2 definitely have pastelish looks, and the top one does too, but more to it than pastel and sable. Very possible that there were multiple sires considering you put multiple animals in with her.

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nope. u got that multiple sired thing wrong. if u have two daddys they just pass their trait on- not a mix of both. for example: pastel, cinni x lesser- u just would get pastel lessers and cinni lessers, but no pewter lessers...

Mojave?

Think I might see a fire in the bottom right egg if thats possible. ~Caylan.S.~

I'd think Cinny or Mojave. I really looking forward to seeing your clutch out of the eggs because I love sable crosses. Looks like the top one is going to get the best of color and pattern.

Wakka-wakka...

Ohh, ok, well maybe its a multiple sired clutch and youre just seeing different morphs across 2 of them?

I think I see mojo mixed in one of the eggs.

I would avoid Recessive genes until you figure out better technique for record keeping. That would get very confusing.

any out of egg pics of these guys yet?

Here it is (a female) out the egg...

http://b-p.org/snakes/PA180248.JPG

Brandon

Oh, I think I win on that one! :taz:

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Oh, I think I win on that one! :taz:

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What was your opinion again?

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Originally Posted by BPHERP

What was your opinion again?

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Super Sable

That is really cool !!!

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Originally Posted by sho220

Super Sable

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OK, does anyone disagree? Just looking for a consensus.

Brandon

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Originally Posted by PYTHONS_ONLINE

That is really cool !!!

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Thanks Lui$

I think its a mojo sable

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Originally Posted by chago11

I think its a mojo sable

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OK, analyze the mojo-sable cross with the super sable and tell me the differences you see. I am really interested in your thoughts. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by BPHERP

OK, analyze the mojo-sable cross with the super sable and tell me the differences you see. I am really interested in your thoughts. Thanks.

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I am not an expert but to me the super sables are a little darker and dont have that gold stripe down there backs.