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Sooo...what is this?!

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  • 10-04-2010, 09:48 PM
    SnakeLady1990
    Sooo...what is this?!
    My friend got this snake awhile back and seems to think it is a burmese...I know it's not but need help on convincing her as she got it from a good friend that bred it and has known them longer than she has me...and he told her it was a burmese.

    Also, can you maybe tell me what kind of boa it is? I have never seen one this dark...

    (Sorry, I took these photos w/ my phone but it really is this dark!)

    http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/SSPX0373.jpg

    http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/SSPX0372.jpg

    http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/SSPX0374.jpg

    http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/SSPX0369.jpg

    http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/q...e/SSPX0370.jpg

    Thanks!
  • 10-04-2010, 09:51 PM
    llovelace
    Is dark like my male rtb, really dark. Definitely not a burm lol. I'll post a recent pic of him in a bit.
  • 10-04-2010, 09:54 PM
    grits
    I have seen rtb that dark too.
  • 10-04-2010, 09:57 PM
    Sammy412
    Common columbian redtail:)
  • 10-04-2010, 10:17 PM
    SnakeLady1990
    yeah, i keep hearing they have a 'dark phase' of the boa's...so is that what he might be? a common or rtb - dark phase? he is super chocolately! And has a REALLY strong iridescence.
  • 10-04-2010, 10:23 PM
    llovelace
    Oscar at around 3 yrs old

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...oa100_2701.jpg


    Oscar tonight (he is courting my big girl, he's the lil one on top)

    http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...Oscar/4578.jpg
  • 10-04-2010, 11:15 PM
    SnakeLady1990
    cute snakes, awwww :)
  • 10-04-2010, 11:44 PM
    Lesserbee
    looks CA to me!
  • 10-05-2010, 10:05 AM
    Void
    Re: Sooo...what is this?!
    Yep that's a rtb not a python. My rtb Loki does the light/dark phases too

    His light
    http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...on-d2zyy7z.jpg

    And his dark
    http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...on-d2zw119.jpg
  • 10-05-2010, 10:22 AM
    jfreels
    Wow, that's a crazy transition, Void. I have never seen anything like that in my RTB. Maybe they don't do the phases as much when they get bigger?
  • 10-05-2010, 10:52 AM
    Void
    Re: Sooo...what is this?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jfreels View Post
    Wow, that's a crazy transition, Void. I have never seen anything like that in my RTB. Maybe they don't do the phases as much when they get bigger?

    Yea he looks like a whole different snake lol I'm not sure how often they do it as adults...I read somewhere on kingsnake that Nicaraguan and central American rtb do it a lot but didn't say how much in terms of size or age.
  • 10-18-2010, 04:49 PM
    Foschi Exotic Serpents
    Well it's obviously a boa and not a python. A quick google search would have shown that much to your friend. What bothers me is that there is someone out there who is breeding red tail boas, which give birth to live young, and is marketing them as Burmese pythons??
    That's a little disturbing coming from a breeder. That's a difference of night and day in the snake world.

    Definitely direct your friend to this forum or to the red tail boa forum. She needs to know what kind of snake she has before she can properly care for it and I hope she can convince the other friend that he is wrong.
  • 10-18-2010, 09:09 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: Sooo...what is this?!
    I really hope that the mis-identification of this snake was just a misunderstanding on your friends part. I would avise your friend to contact the breeder and clear some things up, such as:

    1) what is it's sex and age? Did the breeder actually use this snake as a breeder or did they produce it?

    2) What Locality is it? This is important for your friend to know so they will know what type of future caging requirements to plan for. That boa could be anything from a Nicaraguan that is almost full grown to a Columbian that will double in size...
  • 10-19-2010, 12:19 AM
    Warocker's Wife
    as pointed out u have a lovely RTB (Red Tail Boa)there
  • 10-25-2010, 08:20 PM
    David802
    Re: Sooo...what is this?!
    Everybody's already shed light on the type =P so I'll throw my two cents in about the changes in coloring.

    My Guyana RTB is constantly changing colors, for about the first two or three weeks after he sheds he is so silvery white he's almost an albino, by the time he is ready to shed again he is a dark tan color.

    My friends female does the exact opposite but still has a huge fluctuation.

    She's 5 years old and mines 2 years old.
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