whats with pinstripes

i cant help but wonder why pinstripes are priced so low. i've seen them as low as 150 dollars for males, i picked up my female for 200.00. i think they're one of the coolest, furthest from NORMAL baseline morphs out there. until recently i hadnt really noticed a ton of them on kingsnake to drive the market down.

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Originally Posted by achilles_crutch

i cant help but wonder why pinstripes are priced so low. i've seen them as low as 150 dollars for males, i picked up my female for 200.00. i think they're one of the coolest, furthest from NORMAL baseline morphs out there. until recently i hadnt really noticed a ton of them on kingsnake to drive the market down.

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It's because I favor them. Must be.

Other than that, I don't know. I think they're pretty neat too.

I find it really odd how quickly they dropped. Just last year they were selling for $600-$700 and now I see them for $300. That's a huge drop I got my female for $500 just during the summer.

But, it happens!

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Originally Posted by achilles_crutch

i cant help but wonder why pinstripes are priced so low. i've seen them as low as 150 dollars for males, i picked up my female for 200.00. i think they're one of the coolest, furthest from NORMAL baseline morphs out there. until recently i hadnt really noticed a ton of them on kingsnake to drive the market down.

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Would you have paid more than $200 for your female or would you have waited until it dropped to that price if it wasn't there yet? Some people are just too anxious to move their hatchlings out that they don't want to wait for someone to pay a good price for it, so they keep dropping the price until it's so low that people can't pass it up. Every animal I've sold so far this year has been for more than the average market value. Granted I've got a lot more left than what I've sold so far, but I believe some people are willing to pay for quality -- I've just got to hold on to my animals until they catch the eye of the right person.

In July of last year I bought a female Pinstripe for $380. Doesn't surprise me it dropped again. It's an amazing gene but in the end it is a co-dom and easier bred. The price was bound to to drop.

I was looking at some just in september and males went for $400 and females for $500 in Canada. I also think that some smaller breeders that want a quick sale will let them go for less! Myself, I would pay slighty higher than market value if the the animal is a great example of the morph! It will be worth the investment to look at a beautiful animal for the next 20 years and hatch beautiful babies!

It's combination of them being dominant morphs (so people made a lot of them very quickly) and it being a recession. I've seen pieds for some INSANELY low prices this year.

I paid 600.00 for my girl two years ago... and i got a steal...
Prices drop. They always do.

Pinstripes will be, forever my favorite morph.
Such amazing, and beautiful patterns, i will never get bored with them.

I think the high initial price encouraged lots of production which caused the price to drop. An interesting contrast is hypo (aka ghost) where the price started out modest and actually went up a little but was never very high. Percentage wise hypo really hasn't dropped that much per year for the many years it's been on the market. Pinstripe is awesome so I got to get me one eventually but am now tempted to wait until I can afford a pinstripe combo.

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Originally Posted by m00kfu

Would you have paid more than $200 for your female or would you have waited until it dropped to that price if it wasn't there yet? Some people are just too anxious to move their hatchlings out that they don't want to wait for someone to pay a good price for it, so they keep dropping the price until it's so low that people can't pass it up. Every animal I've sold so far this year has been for more than the average market value. Granted I've got a lot more left than what I've sold so far, but I believe some people are willing to pay for quality -- I've just got to hold on to my animals until they catch the eye of the right person.

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EXACTLY - sellers panic far too often. Nothing wrong with selling an animal for what YOU feel they are worth and wait for the right buyer to see your ad.

I paid $400 for my pin a couple of years ago. I felt I got a good price. Seeing them go for so little now doesn't make my guy worth any less in my eyes. When they first came out the big breeders paid $20k for them, not that many years ago. Ask them how THEY feel about selling pins for $250 these days.

no kidding about the 20k. i couldn't imagine spending that kind of cash. my boys and i scrounged up 600 bucks to go to the columbus show and we were decided we were not coming home without a pin. there was only one there. she was the only bp on a table full of corns we almost didnt see her.

the guy was asking 200 but we would have given him all we had. needless to say we got a pin and a mojo that day.

what exactly is that makes one pin leaps and bounds better than another?

Visually it mostly comes down to personal preference, it's not nearly as cut and dry as something like pastels. On the other side of the coin you've got the REST of the genetics to think about. Things like breeding young, being a great eater, and growing fast can all be passed down the line. As an example, our female pin came from a breeder who's stock generally grows fast and breeds at 18 months old. She was about 2 years old when she laid her first clutch this past year, weighed near 3000 grams and dropped 8 eggs. Probably the best $600 I've spent!