I've Been Holding Out

This guy has been tight lipped around here. Just about 220g.


Is this a Pastel?

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That is one wicked snake dude.

I think its a very special little pastel I like him. He is a smoker Pat.

Very very nice example of the pastel Pat!

Well, looks like Tim confirmed what I suspected! Congrats Pat!

Very nice :D

Very nice looking Pastel.

looks desert-y pastel


i think you should ship it out to me to verify :):)

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Originally Posted by sookieball

looks desert-y pastel


i think you should ship it out to me to verify :):)

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Not quite...but you are on the right track...

Superfly?

Nice Pat!

Thanks....he truly is special.

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Originally Posted by Heartlandherper

Superfly?

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Nope.

Fader Gene Pastel ? Either way stunning !

LOL - all these hints just flying around about him......that's a hint, btw! ;)

firefly?

Very special indeed! ;) :D Gorgeous guy!

Did you produce him?

YB Pastel ?

Hot firefly brudda. :gj:

Don't think it's a firefly - but it IS pretty special! ;)

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Don't think it's a firefly - but it IS pretty special! ;)

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SAY WHAHHHH!
When did pattimus get that? ;)

Pastel special=genetic powerhouse:cool:

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Originally Posted by oddball exotics

Pastel special=genetic powerhouse:cool:

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Indeed it is.....indeed it is....


Nothing like have a Male powerhouse at your disposal.

Pastave variation :confused:
haha

Hope you have an army of mojave girls.....and hit on that pastel CRYSTAL!!!!As if crystal weren't sick enough!!! I'll take a plain old crystal as my prize,thanks Bro.:gj:

I am so jealous! I would love to work with the Special gene.

Congrats Pat! :gj:

Good stuff Pat...:D

Excellent :D

I didn't know they had been done yet some genetic power there though :D

can somebody explain the significance to a pastel special? how does it differ from a regular pastel and what is the special gene?

Congrats Pat very nice pickup!

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Originally Posted by Coastietech

can somebody explain the significance to a pastel special? how does it differ from a regular pastel and what is the special gene?

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A pastel special is 2 genes animal (pastel and special) whereas pastel is a one gene animal

The Special which is a co-dom is one of the ingredient that makes the Crystal.

Congrats!! Sweet snake!

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Originally Posted by Coastietech

can somebody explain the significance to a pastel special? how does it differ from a regular pastel and what is the special gene?

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Originally Posted by Deborah

Congrats Pat very nice pickup!

A pastel special is 2 genes animal (pastel and special) whereas pastel is a one gene animal

The Special which is a co-dom is one of the ingredient that makes the Crystal.

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Thank you! Im still shocked as to how many people do NOT know about Crystals..

The first time I saw a Pastel Crystal I just about died. It is definitely the most beautiful BP in existance. I am not sure if the Special gene has made it into Canada yet?

I am thinking of getting a special this year. Dont know a whole lot about them though. Do they have the same effect on Lesser/butter as they do Mojos? Also have they shown any other crazy mutations in other morphs yet? Also what visually identifies a special. Sorry for all the questions but I am really considering one this year. Was actually gonna email Bill Buchman but I figure since we got Pat on the line here why not! Any insight would be very appreciated

Congratulations Pat and Lydia, you guys are turning a big corner with that bad boy. Is the girl you got from me up to size for him? I hope so; I look forward to seeing some Pastel Crystals from you soon. :gj:

Specials are in Canada.....just you wait!!

Very nice Pat can't wait to see what you do with him.:gj:

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Originally Posted by bones93

I am thinking of getting a special this year. Dont know a whole lot about them though. Do they have the same effect on Lesser/butter as they do Mojos? Also have they shown any other crazy mutations in other morphs yet? Also what visually identifies a special. Sorry for all the questions but I am really considering one this year. Was actually gonna email Bill Buchman but I figure since we got Pat on the line here why not! Any insight would be very appreciated

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It has been done with a Lesser, but as far as I know it is a DIFFERENT line of specials that made the Lesser Crystal. Tom Baker has made a few other Codom "Specials" and have sprinkled them throughout some members here. LOL no worries on the questions. Wish more people knew about them.

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Originally Posted by Albey

Congratulations Pat and Lydia, you guys are turning a big corner with that bad boy. Is the girl you got from me up to size for him? I hope so; I look forward to seeing some Pastel Crystals from you soon. :gj:

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She sure is. Still holding that green REAL well. Cant wait for them to become close friends! Thanks buddy!

Pat,

Can you tell me what visually seperates a special from other more subtle morphs? Also do you know if the special does anything visual to other morphs? For example if you hit on a combo is it obvious? LOL.....Not trying to hijack your thread. Feel free to email me if you would like.....flatlin467@aol.com

Pat, your boy is looking FINE!! And, I am still alive... so far the adolescents have not got over on me! ;)

Info of what I have been doing for those who may be interested in what I believe to be an UNDERVALUED/UNDERRATED gene!! As I have mentioned in other threads, I am breeding my 08 Baker line Special to some Butters, a couple Mojaves, a Pastel, and a Cajun Butter.

All my Butter stuff is big but young at 2 1/2 years -- none have gone yet. I have produced quite a few Specials and a pair of Special Cinnys. The male is a chow-hound who is approaching 900 grams and will be paired with some codom stuff this coming season.

Tom Baker has made most of the Special combos of merit and will no doubt make some new stuff in 2011. :bow:

It should go without saying that a Caramel Crystal and a Caramel Savannah Special are at the top of my "to do" list -- I have not quite figured out how I am going to go about it yet??? There are really no short-cuts with recessives. :colbert::colbert: I will post anything new I produce. It is a unique gene with so much yet to make!!

HES ALIVE!!!!!!

Glad to hear you are doin well Bill!





As far as the Special standing out from others....I believe it does. It is subtle, but there.

Bill,

I have been eyeing those 400 gram boys on KS the last few weeks. I have big plans for one of them! Now I just have to come up with the cash or wait till JAN! I think the crystals are amazing and you guys are right that it is a very under rated gene. Good luck with your upcoming projects. Hopefully noone has my idea on their mind yet LOL

There he is... :) Looking fantastic, Pat!

I know where there's a nice big mojave waiting to meet a boy like that **cough**cough**. Come by and take her home with you :)

That thing is gorgeous!

Thanks everyone. Should be fun to work with him.

His flames keep on getting brighter, and the white keeps adding more and more contrast.




As far as you go Eric...the Amtrak is lookin mighty fine! LOL

Patrick, I don't know why everyone isn't telling you the truth. That snake is just a plain jane normal. Nothing special at all.

I'll give ya $20 for it since it's nothing special. ;)
Jim Smith


ps That's a great looking snake. Congrats!!!

Wow that thing is smokin Pat!
Big congrats!

Real nice snake Pat, looking forward to seeing his progeny :D

Thanks everyone. Appreciate it.

Cant wait to see him at about 600 grams.

Wow dude :bow: