BP morph - Need help to ID - very nice!

I have no clue what he is nor does my buddy. Someone guessed a super pastel fire ball, but no clue. Here are pics...

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...s/DSC_0017.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...s/DSC_0016.jpg

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...s/DSC_0018.jpg

Looks like a pastel to me :)

looks like a midgrade pastel to me.

Not a super pastel by a long shot, head isn't faded enough for that.

I'd guess just a pastel, but I can't see the eyes to tell for sure. If it is a pastel, is a very low grade one who will go very brown with age, you can tell by the dark orange coloring. I suppose it's possible it's a fire, but I highly doubt it. They are usually a lot brighter than that.

Gale

The pics really do not help. The "lemon" down the back is very bright and the orange on the side is a little bright as well. May can see a little better here...

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/l...t=DSC_0019.jpg

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Originally Posted by 04redmach1

The pics really do not help. The "lemon" down the back is very bright and the orange on the side is a little bright as well. May can see a little better here...

http://s289.photobucket.com/albums/l...t=DSC_0019.jpg

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I'm still just seeing a pastel. :/

I've never seen a pastel this bright or so much orange. Idk. Maybe I can get better pictures tomorrow. Looking at Fire balls, it looks VERY similar.

This is a great fire, from NERD's website -- http://www.newenglandreptile.com/ner...ll-python.html

Fires are very clean and bright, I've never seen one with orange on it.

this is a superpastel from boas and balls website -- http://www.boasandballs.com/Photo%27...r%20pastel.jpg

they have very little true black (they are considered hypomelanistic in a literal sense) very very faded heads, lots of blushing, etc.

Here is the fire I was looking at. http://www.ballpython777.com/fire/fire.html

Yeah, definitely not a fire, fire's have no orange. It's definitely a pastel :)
super pastels will be more yellow and have a lot more blushing, here's my boy for comparison...

http://i51.tinypic.com/286rd3o.jpg

Def Pastel. It looks a little thin too.

I don't think those are just fires, they may be fireflyes or just a bad picture. this guy on the right is a fire: http://www.ballpython777.com/fire/firecomparenormal.jpg

no doubt a pastel :D

He is only 53 grams at the moment, but for sure not any super pastel in it. Interesting, it shows very similar colors to the fire in my link.

Ill agree with everyone else in saying its a pastel. And sorry to say but a very low grade pastel. In a year I'll bet it will be very browned out.

Those fires in the link aren't wonderful examples of fires. If you've ever seen one in person you can tell the difference right away between pastel and fire.
I'm 100% sure as is everyone else that's it's just a pretty pastel :)

It is a Pastel.

Not a Fire.

Not a Firefly.

It is a Pastel.

Congratulations :)

Yeah concur with everyone else. Sorry it wasn't a awesome rare morph, just a lower grade Pastel. Good luck with him, he needs to put some weight on!

looks like a pastel to me...the orange will brown out as it gets older. What was it sold to him as?

I am trying to find out what parents had in them exactly. He is only 5 weeks old. Sold unknown but cheap ;) I have just never seen this bright of orange or "lemon" on a regular pastel. Pictures don't capture the brightness well.

Not disappointed at all, just wanting to know exact, and it really does not look like normal pastel in person. I know one of the parents had orange ghost, but trying to find out other.

As with every one else I'm going with low grade pastel.

A pastel. For sure.

The oranges in baby pastels will tend to brown out more and more with each shed, while the yellows while start to become more vibrant. A baby pastel looks pretty different from what it will look like when its say....6 months old.

Congrats on the pick up.

It's a Pastel... There's nothing else in it. There ARE Pastels with Orange like that. They are called low grade Pastels. Probably why he was so cheap.

looks like a low-mid grade pastel to me as well. Over a dozen people have said the same thing...why is this that hard to believe? Pastels are still great snakes.

Yes, low grade pastels will be orange with yellow and that is what I see! Also better pics with better lighting and a better background will help!

Yeah...that's an ugly pastel.
Sorry to say...

I see LOTS of pastels with that much orange as babies, which is why I'm still shopping for mine.

Deep orange pastel's like that will turn very brown as adults, I've seen it time and time again.

A very bright yellow baby pastel will usually hold it's color much better. The link you posted shows what are lower grade fires in my opinion, but even then if you compare your picture side by side, they do not look the same.

It really doesn't matter what the parents of your pastel were, since there are no visual markers for most morphs. Even if one was an orange ghost, since that is a recessive color the baby either will be that color, or you won't be able to see it.

Nothing wrong with "just a pastel" they make a lot of pretty morphs.

Gale