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Is this a BLACK BELLY?

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  • 09-14-2010, 08:56 PM
    MS2
    Is this a BLACK BELLY?
  • 09-15-2010, 07:53 PM
    MS2
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    It's not a trick question, I'm just looking for alittle help....
  • 09-15-2010, 07:56 PM
    mainbutter
    I've never really heard the term 'black belly', but having coloration like that on the belly isn't by any means uncommon among normal ball pythons.

    Many visual morphs in fact have a tendency to clean up the belly quite a bit.
  • 09-15-2010, 08:23 PM
    SnakeDoc
    Where did you get this Black Belly?
    I'd say he's a good example of one. Look a how it's separated from the side flames...Is this a pet store find or show purchase?
  • 09-15-2010, 08:39 PM
    MS2
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    This is something I produced with 14 others. This one is the best example.
  • 09-16-2010, 03:15 PM
    Vlervatron
    I have never herd of a "black belly"
  • 09-16-2010, 04:09 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vlervatron View Post
    I have never herd of a "black belly"

    It's not a super well known morph, but that looks like one to me from pics I've seen, sweet belly.
  • 09-16-2010, 06:27 PM
    MS2
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    I can find very little info on black bellies. Alittle talk in 2008 and thats about it. They are suppost to be half of what you need to make yellow jackets. I don't know what they are or not, so thats why I'm looking for some ideas.
  • 09-16-2010, 06:29 PM
    MS2
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    I've never really heard the term 'black belly', but having coloration like that on the belly isn't by any means uncommon among normal ball pythons.

    Many visual morphs in fact have a tendency to clean up the belly quite a bit.

    The key word is Many....
  • 09-16-2010, 06:36 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    I've got a girl here that I'll be breeding to my pastel this season who might be a black belly - hoping for some yellow jackets!

    I've not seen Ian's line of black bellies to do a comparison, so I can't say whether that one is or not (nor can I say if mine is or not).
  • 09-16-2010, 06:36 PM
    MikeV
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MS2 View Post
    I can find very little info on black bellies. Alittle talk in 2008 and thats about it. They are suppost to be half of what you need to make yellow jackets. I don't know what they are or not, so thats why I'm looking for some ideas.

    I think you should raise that one up and breed him to another morph and see what you get

    I am getting into ball pythons soon and this is something I am interested in. I really like the belly of the "Black Belly" and id love to see it on some other morphs
  • 09-16-2010, 06:40 PM
    MS2
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    I've got a girl here that I'll be breeding to my pastel this season who might be a black belly - hoping for some yellow jackets!

    I've not seen Ian's line of black bellies to do a comparison, so I can't say whether that one is or not (nor can I say if mine is or not).

    I guess the only way to find out is to breed them.
  • 09-16-2010, 06:45 PM
    MS2
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeV View Post
    I think you should raise that one up and breed him to another morph and see what you get

    I am getting into ball pythons soon and this is something I am interested in. I really like the belly of the "Black Belly" and id love to see it on some other morphs

    I hatch 15 this year from 2 females and the same male. Mostly all of them have the black belly. The male also has this trait. Only my 3rd season breeding, but I've owned ball pythons for 20 year and don't recall any with this belly pattern. I do know that other people have them, so are they normal or something more???
  • 09-16-2010, 07:34 PM
    MikeV
    Re: Is this a BLACK BELLY?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MS2 View Post
    I hatch 15 this year from 2 females and the same male. Mostly all of them have the black belly. The male also has this trait. Only my 3rd season breeding, but I've owned ball pythons for 20 year and don't recall any with this belly pattern. I do know that other people have them, so are they normal or something more???

    Thats interesting, think its genetic? Or could it be just a fluke?

    I personally believe its genetic. Its no coincidence that you hatched out 15 and most have the black belly trait.

    Sounds genetic to me, but I am no expert on BPs or thier morphs or whatever lol!
  • 09-16-2010, 07:40 PM
    loonunit
    Whoa! I'd say that's an Awesome Belly.
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