What can you tell me about this snAke?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/...l/9fd52989.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/...l/b7d8d296.jpg

The guy said it was a fancy normal.. I think it's a spider.. I'm just learning so I could have been wrong..

spider. definitely not a normal LOL.

how much are you going to buy it for??? i'd get it if it was sold at a normal price :gj:

make sure it's healthy...

It's a spider.
Never seen someone mislabel a spider as a fancy normal, but I'd scoop it up.:)

The guy said $150 because it was such a "cool looking snake" he says it's feeding fine.. I was going to go get it very soon if that's a good price

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

The guy said $150 because it was such a "cool looking snake" he says it's feeding fine.. I was going to go get it very soon if that's a good price

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I would get it

somehow i got a not so good feeling on this. i dont know whats exactly going on with that snake but something smells fishy for me.

no idea what the acuall price for spiders in the us is (here it is about 300€- thats about 350$) but everyone notice that these is not just a fancy normal.

if i have no idea about morphs and hatch out this, i go and check the internet- maybe i have a million dollar snake in my hands...lol

the fact that he doesnt know what he has there shows a bit about his knowledge on snakes and probably on the proper care for them...


i would definatlly check it 3 or 4 times before i buy that snake.

i cant tell u hundert percent why but i really have a bad feeling about this deal...

150.00 is pretty close to the going price for a male spider these days. But I can't see him buying that snake as a normal and then reselling it as the same. It doesn't sound right.

yeah, something is definitely fishy... why sell it for 150 (very very very cheap spider) and say it's a normal?? it's like he's trying to scam you into paying a good price for a nice spider... weird... as said before - quadruple check the health of it before you buy it... :gj:

If this is a local for sale add, definitely go see the snake before handing over any money. It is a spider though and not a fancy normal. I wouldn't send any money otherwise. How's the person's English (No offense to anyone here)? There are alot of scams out there still.

I knew instantly that was a spider and I have been researching BP's for 2 days and don't even own one yet...

if it smells like poop....

Chad

It doesn't surprise me that someone might buy a snake and just forget the name of the morph. I remember a thread a while back that told a story of a guy buying a piebald (For at least $1,000) and it ended up dying from poor husbandry and the guy just not taking care of it.

I'd check it out and make sure it doesn't have a RI first and foremost. Go from there.

i went there tonight and the snake was in fine health very good weight for its size.. seemed active not showing any odd signs.. i asked about past feedings and the guy said everything was going fine..i figured i would take the little man home and try my luck.. so now hes mine..

but there seems to be some controversy about the asking price.. was $150 a good buy if hes of fine health?

and another question.. could he possibly a hypo? i looked at his lower sides and his stripes and he seems to getting more yellow on him than white.. or is this just how spiders are?

If he is in good health, I'd say $150 was a fair price for him. As far as being hypo? I'd just say it is a low white spider. Spiders can have variable degrees of white, hence the terms high white and low white for them. Congrats and good luck with him. Also, if you have other snakes, remember to quarantine him. :gj:

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Originally Posted by PghBall

If he is in good health, I'd say $150 was a fair price for him. As far as being hypo? I'd just say it is a low white spider. Spiders can have variable degrees of white, hence the terms high white and low white for them. Congrats and good luck with him. Also, if you have other snakes, remember to quarantine him. :gj:

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i also noticed he has some awesome green eyes :-D they look pretty neat.. and why should he be alone? are they more prone to being agressive?

I just picked up a baby Spider at Kingsnake classified (Check out the classified ads and compare prices if you want) for $150. As they get a little bigger, they can go for a little more.

As for the white sides, mine has that too.

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

i also noticed he has some awesome green eyes :-D they look pretty neat.. and why should he be alone? are they more prone to being agressive?

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Quarantine keeps your collection safe from mite infestations, transmitable disease, etc. Nothing to do with aggressiveness. Better safe than sorry. Most here recommend a minimum of 6 weeks quarantine in a different room of the house (different floor as well) to minimize harm to your collection. After the quarantine period passes, the snake can then join the collection.

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Originally Posted by PghBall

Quarantine keeps your collection safe from mite infestations, transmitable disease, etc. Nothing to do with aggressiveness. Better safe than sorry. Most here recommend a minimum of 6 weeks quarantine in a different room of the house (different floor as well) to minimize harm to your collection. After the quarantine period passes, the snake can then join the collection.

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ah.. yea i honestly didnt think about that at all.. thank you! :bow:

and whats "better" for breeding low white or high white? and is he a reduced pattern or is that just a normal spider thru and thru?

sorry for all the questions im just trying to figure out this little guy

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

ah.. yea i honestly didnt think about that at all.. thank you! :bow:

and whats "better" for breeding low white or high white? and is he a reduced pattern or is that just a normal spider thru and thru?

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It is a matter of preference. Some prefer low white, others high. My spider to me looked low white as a baby, but now is somewhere in the middle. I'd say from the pics, he is just a nice low white spider. Congrats!

Here are some pics of my normal spider for comparison:


http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/ericeod/PB_5.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/ericeod/PB_8.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/ericeod/PB_6.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/ericeod/PB_7.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/ericeod/PB_2.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/ericeod/PB_4.jpg

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j298/ericeod/PB_3.jpg

finall got my own picture of him..

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/...ul/photo-1.jpg

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

finall got my own picture of him..

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That is an awesome looking animal!

There is no question about it, that is 100% a spider. If it is a male, $150 is right around the going rate for a low white spider. Great pick up!:gj:

Congrats :gj:

thanks everyone for all the help and congratulations! :banana:

im guessing it takes about a year for them to reach breeding size?

I've heard others say they've had males under a year old breeding.

girlfriend just sent me this picture

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/...0ul/photo1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/...l/photo2-1.jpg

Also, don't freak out if he shows some minor neurological signs--that's normal for a spider morph, and is referred to as a 'wobble'. He may keep his head upside down for abnormally long periods, his head may wobble when he stalks prey, or he may just seem oddly uncoordinated. The degree varies a lot, so he might or might not show these signs.

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Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion

Also, don't freak out if he shows some minor neurological signs--that's normal for a spider morph, and is referred to as a 'wobble'. He may keep his head upside down for abnormally long periods, his head may wobble when he stalks prey, or he may just seem oddly uncoordinated. The degree varies a lot, so he might or might not show these signs.

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he does go inverted quite offen.. i just figured he was "special"

grats on the sweet looking spider! love the head pattern :gj:

just a thought. read this maybe someone else will feel the same way i do.

it could be a possibility..... "could" being the operative word.
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...its/banded.asp

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Originally Posted by sookieball

just a thought. read this maybe someone else will feel the same way i do.

it could be a possibility..... "could" being the operative word.
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...its/banded.asp

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i looked at that and its interesting to even think that that article almost led me to believe that almost any spider could possibly be a "banded" but also on the same note i looked at the head patterns and looked around the net to see more banded pictures and it seemed to me that banded had more traditional pattern but with less side markings..

so in lamens terms... you confused me again :-P

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

i also noticed he has some awesome green eyes :-D they look pretty neat.. and why should he be alone? are they more prone to being agressive?

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FYI (in case I'm not reading too much into your comment), they should always live alone - each snake in their own enclosure. Quarantine is a different issue altogether, where you typically keep them in a separate ROOM for 30-90 days... I personally don't do the best quarantine, due to limited space, but I do the best I can. ;) Anyway, just wanted to make sure you understood both points.

Oh, and congrats on the new baby! He's a looker! :)

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

FYI (in case I'm not reading too much into your comment), they should always live alone - each snake in their own enclosure. Quarantine is a different issue altogether, where you typically keep them in a separate ROOM for 30-90 days... I personally don't do the best quarantine, due to limited space, but I do the best I can. ;) Anyway, just wanted to make sure you understood both points.

Oh, and congrats on the new baby! He's a looker! :)

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i was pretty sure due to size i couldnt house him with my famale.. but can they live together if they are a breeding pair?

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

i was pretty sure due to size i couldnt house him with my famale.. but can they live together if they are a breeding pair?

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nope. they can be together for a few days on and off to breed but shouldnt be together longer than that.

could he possibly be a yellowbelly spider? i was looking at pictures and seen a picture of a YB spider that looks just like him and he does seem to have a lot of yellow freckle pattern on his underside

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Originally Posted by sookieball

just a thought. read this maybe someone else will feel the same way i do.

it could be a possibility..... "could" being the operative word.
http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/ma...its/banded.asp

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Eyes are black in Ralph's pics from what I can see. From the OP's pics, I still say spider.

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Originally Posted by Tidus10

could he possibly be a yellowbelly spider? i was looking at pictures and seen a picture of a YB spider that looks just like him and he does seem to have a lot of yellow freckle pattern on his underside

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I can't say "no," since we don't know the snake's real genetics... but most spiders have freckling on their belly, some more than others. Here's mine for comparison:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...3/P1010786.jpg

The only full belly shot I can find... you can see a few "freckles" on there.
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/DSCF2164.jpg

wow thats some cool speckling look hes got there.. well if hes no YB then mine sure isnt.. i have no clue what the genetics are on him either and it seems like the previous owner was more clueless than me..... hopefully next year i'll get a pastel and try very hard to make bees! :-P