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How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
I've come to the conclusion that I really don't plan, (Or want to right now at least) to breed BPs. I started with my little normal to make sure I could properly care for her, and so far it's been great. However, I love showing people my Setup/Snake and I get great joy out of it. Even if it's showing pictures of my setup/snake to people and telling them about how awesome of a pet they are.
I realized I love the different morphs, however I don't plan on breeding to get them. I'll probably end up with a MAX of 3-5 snakes, but mostly just for showing people and enjoying a few different morphs as pets.
Does anyone else feel this way?
P.S. I know there is a lot of joy in breeding animals, especially when you produce something really cool and a lot of work comes out in one little egg. However I don't know the people or have to time to search for buyers and take care of that many snakes. Maybe one day in the long run I will breed, but not now.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
At first when I started off, I just wanted a pet. Than ofcourse I wanted to breed; got 3 snakes. When it was time to breed, I didn't. I literally waited for 3 years and one day the itch started again and had my first clutch this year.
I think that its something that might hit you at first, than get lost, than come back again. You never know. I have 14 snakes now, I love having company coming over and me showing them off lol. I love the shock factor. They are my babies and love them, above all they are my pets first and anything else is pure overjoy.
Its pretty easy to find someone to sell your snakes too. One start would be your feed store, online at kingsnake, or even look at your local reptile stores. I was lucky that my distributor provides me with my feed, new snakes, etc.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
I don't really plan on breeding the BP's. Not saying that I won't sometime in the future, but I don't buy them while planning on it.
I do like certain morphs for their beauty, and although they are more expensive, I still plan on getting a few, even though I won't recoup the
investment through breeding.
Back when I first started with BP's I really enjoyed keeping them as "pets". They were in display cages and got handled frequently. They never hissed or bit. They weren't head-shy. They ate frozen thawed and were always ready to eat. My point is, while I see and understand why breeders keep them in tubs, it can also be done in cages where they have room to roam and are displayed.
That said, my cages were 4 ft. Neodesha professional snake enclosures, not glas tanks. It was very easy to provide the correct belly heat and humidity, and also very easy to keep those cages clean. There were hides in both cool and warm ends, and even large branches to climb on, which even the adults would do!
My BP's would come along for educational Presentations and were a favorite with people, so tame.
I used to love sitting in front of the cages, just watching the snakes in a somewhat natural environment. Many times the BP's would hang out in "the open", calm as can be. They would "investigate" every time I open the glas door.
So yes, they "work" well in a display kind of setup, when done right. And to me, that is part of the pleasure of keeping snakes. Sadly, thats also the reason why I can't (or won't) have 20 or more ;)
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
I have no plans for breeding in the forseeable future...
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
When I first got mine, I only wanted him as a pet. I kind of want to breed now, but it's going to be a while until he's mature, so I have lots of time to think about it. I'm not going to go all out on breeding though. I just want to breed to play with genetics and because I want to keep many snakes as pets. I'm not going to be breeding my second generation, so I'm only starting because I'd rather breed my own pets than buy.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
I don't plan on breeding. I only plan on keeping my bp as a pet.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
The cost of tank cages would drastically would make up more space than is needed; not to mention the cost lol. I like my snake rack, I see them roam all at once.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
At first I told myself that I don't have the time to breed due to college and work and other life concerns, but I hadn't considered breeding for fun and not for profit. Now that I've got a pair of snakes I'm perfectly happy having them as pets, and if it hits me when they're old/big enough that I might want to try, I will. Definitely isn't my priority in owning snakes though, they're my loved pets
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
Like I said, to each their own :)
I see the need or practicality of racks/tubs. I know they work, and work well.
My point was just that cages, even larger ones, CAN work just as well. I simply love the display and if done right,
there is no negative effect on the snake. I've kept all mine in display cages (not glass tanks), and they were all great feeder, healthy,
tame as can be, and absolutely not shy, either.
I do not put "human emotions" on my reptiles, but I do enjoy providing at least a small "natural environment" and I like to look at it, too.
It does take up far more room, it costs more, it takes more effort, it might not be as practical, but it CAN be done right.
For some people that keep them as "pets" and don't worry about breeding, for people that only have a few snakes, it can be an option.
That said, I prefer to keep hatchlings in small tubs on papertowels, until they are well started. It makes it easier to get them started and keep an eye on everything.
I also kept my rescues in tubs, because they were nowhere near my own personal collection, and they were sometimes sick or non-feeders that needed a very quiet and specialized
habitat (higher heat, etc)
Only my own personal "pets" were on display.
My Angolan Python is in a 4 foot display cage from showcages.com
She was hard to get started on feeding regularly and until she did, she was in a tub. She is now in her cage, and would eat every other day if I let her ! She has hides in both warm and cool end, some branches and her waterbowl. She is doing fantastic.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
The reason I asked this question is I do infact love other morphs, and as said, I will never get my "Investment" back if I don't breed them. However I have 2 other python morphs I just want to have and to be able to show. A BEL (Black or blue I don't really mind either way, however blue is just drop dead gorgeous) and a BumbleBee. I figure those three, possibly one more in the really long run would be pretty awesome to show to everyone.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
I totally understand.
I have a Bumblebee on the way, as well as a Pastel Het Clown.
I would like to add a couple more beautiful morphs, but then I would have to consider selling my Angolan Python to make room for this Ball Python addiction...
My favorite morphs are the Deserts, especially the Tiger.
I would still keep those as "pets" and on display, rather then as breeders ;)
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
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Originally Posted by zina10
I totally understand.
I have a Bumblebee on the way, as well as a Pastel Het Clown.
I would like to add a couple more beautiful morphs, but then I would have to consider selling my Angolan Python to make room for this Ball Python addiction...
My favorite morphs are the Deserts, especially the Tiger.
I would still keep those as "pets" and on display, rather then as breeders ;)
Very nice. I can't wait till I have some cash after this summer for bumblebee.
I guess in the long run if I wanted to breed, I could always find a breeder and do a loan with the stipulation that I get what I want and he/she gets what they want.
Anyway, just at work with some time to pass so I was thinking about this subject.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
I've got three 6 bps right now, and by the end of next year I'll probably have 9 or 10. I don't plan on breeding, though the snakes I've got would all work well together as breeder pairs if I ever change my mind.
I'm really tempted to breed my spider and pastel in the future, just because they're both stunning examples of their morph/breed, and the resulting bee(s) would probably be fantastic looking. But, for now I think I've sated my herp sweet tooth just collecting. We'll see how long that lasts. ;)
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
I only have one "normal" BP and I don't plan on breeding. Unlike a lot of people on this site, I plan to only stick to one snake for quite a while. I'd be going beyond my means if I had more. Sure, I wouldn't mind having a Bumblebee or an Albino, but it just isn't going to happen anytime soon.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
Never say never ;)
I gotta say breeding is pretty awesome, and if it interests you in the slightest you should go for it. Quite a rewarding experience if you ask me. Not for everyone though. My advice is just keep the option out there, and if you feel you can/want to breed its like nike...JUST DO IT :D
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I got 3 bps of different colors. They look awesome in the glass tanks "slice of Africa" theme I got going on.
My husband wanted to buy a bumblebee and asked me for $600. I said, nope. No more snakes. So, he decided to put our pastel and spider together to try for a bee.
Over half a year later, we got 2 bees and a normal in addition to our 3 bp's. I wanted to get them adopted but the kids cried their eyes out. So, we got 3 more pets for now. I don't think I'm going to do the glass tanks for these 3 new guys. It is quite a bit of maintenance for glass tanks. I got 4 glass tanks (also got a hognose) all decked out (spent almost $500 on each one!) in addition to the turtle tank and fish tank. I don't think I can take care of 3 more. So, these new guys are gonna be tub dwellers.
So yeah, never say never on the breeding. Now that I'm building a rack, my husband will probably think of trying out that albino with the spider!
Sometimes it's just easier to let the boys do what they want to do. :rolleye2:
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
I got a normal male and only planned on one pet snake! After going to a few shows and reading about people breeding and all the different morphs, not only did I buy more, I also got the itch to breed so this season will be my first attempt!
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As much as I love BP's and all the cool looking morhps they produce, i'm happy with my 2.
I thought about breeding for a while but it would just be too much. I wouldn't have the time and I don't think i'd be into it. Not to mention that I bet it gets expensive!
Kudos to those who do breed them though.
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Re: How many of you have BP's and don't plan on breeding?
Thought about it but no I just want a mojave and Im done
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I share your feelings. I have fallen in love with our BP, and I was one of those people who"never understood why people would want a snake for a pet" Well, now I'm mad over all the cool morphs. I think about breeding some, but it seems like alot of work and something my animal lover side may take to the max if I'm not careful. I am however good on the ideal of getting one more BP, a female Lemon blast or Killer blast just as a pet, but then I will also have the option to make some pretty snake babies too. I'd say just do what feels right, one day you may want to breed and if not no harm done there either, snakes are wonderful pets weather for breeding, lovin on or both
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My normal (only one) isn't even sexed and he/she is 11 years old, so I'm really not thinking about it right now. I had heard that at that age it isn't good for them to be sexed, and that it's better to do it when they're young. I had a boy who has bps tell me that it was a female by the size of the hooks but I'd heard that method is unreliable. I would like to breed snakes eventually, but at this time it isn't likely.
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