Snow Morphs

any of you have this kind of morph? i have been looking for pix of them here but theres none to see.

all i do is go to this site: http://ballpython.com/index.php?page=morphs and admire them.

(its the first BP on the first row from the left)

I sure wish I did! :gj:

Ive yet to see anyone produce snows on here

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Originally Posted by DJ_Bizarre

Ive yet to see anyone produce snows on here

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I imagine because the BEL is a more popular and easier to produce white snake.

snows get yellow-ish as they get older. to me thats undesirable in a "white" snake

i think there a serval reasons, why u dont see them so often.

1st- its a long time project with 1 in 16 odds.

2nd- cause of that it cost 20k or so (dont know the right price, cause i didnt see them for sale the last year...)

3rd- they get yellowish with ages (some lines less, some lines more)

4th- u can get pure white snakes with blue or black eyes for a bit over 1k- and these are pure white and stay pure white (at least the most BELs- super mojos are different)

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Originally Posted by Steveoo

snows get yellow-ish as they get older. to me thats undesirable in a "white" snake

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Originally Posted by joe23

3rd- they get yellowish with ages (some lines less, some lines more)

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That's not always true. Brian Sharp's snows eventually turn all white. I'm picking up a female in Daytona next week, I'll get pictures of it then.

Snows are my all time favorite BP Morph.

I have produced 7 VPI snows in the last couple years from double hets. The reason you do not see many is that they are very hard to produce unlike BEL. Here is a pic of one I produced this year (with some other stuff) also in the pic is a BEL as well.

Ryan Young
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...babyballs1.jpg

Hello

Sorry for my poor english (i'm French)

My Snow, a "man" VPI line.

http://d4.e-loader.net/QktLD1J25s.JPG

http://d11.e-loader.net/xQDllfoKv4.JPG

http://d3.e-loader.net/5V2WK9EkRi.JPG

http://d28.e-loader.net/cleE2PpVQd.JPG

http://d22.e-loader.net/OwjTxcBnlb.JPG

That is an amazingly beautiful animal, I like that more than a BEL. I love the oh-so-faint pattern and bright red/pink eyes.

Gale

Poor english or not, pictures are understood in all languages.
Merci pour les photo mon homme, tres bien faite :gj:

Thank you.

Just for the fun.

http://d27.e-loader.net/qbQmYfj9f6.JPG

Smokin'

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Originally Posted by AaronP

That's not always true. Brian Sharp's snows eventually turn all white. I'm picking up a female in Daytona next week, I'll get pictures of it then.

Snows are my all time favorite BP Morph.

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Hey Aaron, Im a good friend of Brian's, I'll be working at his booth this year. Yes he has produced some amazing snows this year. Im picking up a male to breed to my DH's. Im hoping to produce some next year. My girls are getting up there in weight.

See you there, Rich

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Originally Posted by ScubaDiver007

Hey Aaron, Im a good friend of Brian's, I'll be working at his booth this year. Yes he has produced some amazing snows this year. Im picking up a male to breed to my DH's. Im hoping to produce some next year. My girls are getting up there in weight.

See you there, Rich

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Yea I think he mentioned you when I talked to him a couple of weeks ago. Looking forward to meeting you at the show!

Briz on here has produced several over the years, and I am STILL working on hitting on them over the last two years with VISUALs het for the other.

So... hitting on Snows is hard work.

beautiful morphs! how i wish i could get one.

never thought that snows get yellowish as they age.

whats a BEL, btw?

sorry but newbie here.

also, do you guys have any site that i could look at some snows? i would like to see how much they will cost me.

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Originally Posted by xxxLIGERxxx

beautiful morphs! how i wish i could get one.

never thought that snows get yellowish as they age.

whats a BEL, btw?

sorry but newbie here.

also, do you guys have any site that i could look at some snows? i would like to see how much they will cost me.

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as u hear- not all snows turn yellowish (which i didnt know before).

BEL stand for blue eyed leucistic. its an all white animal with blue eyes. there are black eyed leucistics out there too.

u can produce em in many ways. breed lesser x lesser, butter x butter, mojo x mojo- each of em mixed. russo het x russo het, mocha x mocha. lesser x phantom, butter x phantom etc.

the black eyed lucy is made by breeding to fires together- or by breeding two sulfurs together (sulfur is another line of fire)

there are a lot of ways to produce em- thats why there are so many and the price is so low. the price thing has something to do with the genetics too. they are co dominat. which means u can get em in the first shot

unlike the snow project, u dont need such a long way.

the chance to produce bels is 1 in 4. the chance to produce snows is 1 in 16 (plus u first have to make double hets for axanthic and albino- or buy em)

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Originally Posted by joe23

2nd- cause of that it cost 20k or so (dont know the right price, cause i didnt see them for sale the last year...)

3rd- they get yellowish with ages (some lines less, some lines more)

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They've come way down-- Brian Sharp is selling his VPI snows for $3500 each right now. And I actually really like the yellow pattern, for the same reason I like crystals and potions. And on snows sometimes it even looks almost iridescent. :gj:

oh man- they really have come down. are the other double recissiv morphs still high, or did they come down too?

like caramel glows, albino pieds, albino gen stripe etc.

i believe that the caramel clown and caramel gen stripe are still very high, cause only one or two persons have made em. (i think two have produced the caramel gen stripe and one has produced the caramel clown) oh and the lightning pied is probably still high ether- i know just one person who have made em (and thats without being in that project...lol)

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Originally Posted by joe23

oh man- they really have come down. are the other double recissiv morphs still high, or did they come down too?

like caramel glows, albino pieds, albino gen stripe etc.

i believe that the caramel clown and caramel gen stripe are still very high, cause only one or two persons have made em. (i think two have produced the caramel gen stripe and one has produced the caramel clown) oh and the lightning pied is probably still high ether- i know just one person who have made em (and thats without being in that project...lol)

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They're generally still very high. The only reason why Snows are "cheap" is because there are a hell of a lot more of them. The first snows were made in like '99 so they've been around a lot longer too.

I like the lavender snow best. I have the ingredients, now just have to find the patience to wait the years it's gonna take to hatch one out eventually. :please:

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Originally Posted by joe23

as u hear- not all snows turn yellowish (which i didnt know before).

BEL stand for blue eyed leucistic. its an all white animal with blue eyes. there are black eyed leucistics out there too.

u can produce em in many ways. breed lesser x lesser, butter x butter, mojo x mojo- each of em mixed. russo het x russo het, mocha x mocha. lesser x phantom, butter x phantom etc.

the black eyed lucy is made by breeding to fires together- or by breeding two sulfurs together (sulfur is another line of fire)

there are a lot of ways to produce em- thats why there are so many and the price is so low. the price thing has something to do with the genetics too. they are co dominat. which means u can get em in the first shot

unlike the snow project, u dont need such a long way.

the chance to produce bels is 1 in 4. the chance to produce snows is 1 in 16 (plus u first have to make double hets for axanthic and albino- or buy em)

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thanks!

that BEL really got my attention any of you guys out there has a BEL?

but i am still hoping for a snow :D all i have right now is a pastel F which i have on my avatar.