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"Dangerous dog breeds"

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  • 08-05-2010, 06:07 PM
    sorakitty
    "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Okay, so this is out of the blue I know. But it's a topic I like to bring up and hear other peoples opinions.
    What is everyone thought on the title of "dangerous dog breeds" Examples such as the chow chow, pitbull, german shepherd, rottweiler, doberman, akita, dalmatian, boxer and so on and so forth (And yes, the german shepherd is titled as a 'dangerous dog').

    I know not everyone see's them as dangerous. But people are mostly close minded mostly to the pitbull and rottweiler. My family has owned a rottweiler, and she's been the best dog. I even got a tattoo in memory of her. My parents use to tell me that when they went to look at her they took me with them, and I crawled up and ripped a bone out of the dogs mouth while she was chewing on it, and she did nothing. My parents knew right away that was going to be our dog. People find it amazing when I tell them this story. She also would protect my sister and I when we where younger. It didn't matter if she knew it was a family friend or not. She would place herself between my sister and I and stair them down until my parents would give her the okay, and she would let her guard down. Even when my dad and I would rough house, she'd go after him until my dad would pretend I was hurting him and he'd tell her to get me and she would turn around and just start barking at me like she would him. She did not like when him and I would rough house at all. Anyways enough rant on her. XD

    I now own an akita and she's wonderful. So protective of the house, and the family even outside. One story about her (lol) my parents where outside and one of their friends dog (Phil) went out into the woods and must of got into something, and just for the record my dog get's along great with Phil. So Phil came back towards my parents after his adventure in the woods, for what ever reason, my dog did not recognize Phil's scent went right for him, and ended up puncturing him (but not badly. There was a little blood, but no stitches where needed or anything). She did it only to protect my parents, and my dad couldn't be mad at her for doing her job. But don't get me wrong, they felt bad for what happened, but why yell at a dog for doing it's job, and give it the wrong impression. I know it's not a hell of a happy story, but it's not a sad one. My dog still gets to play with Phil and the guys other dog (which happens to be a pitbull).

    Anyways, sorry for the rants. I hate how those dogs have such horrible raps when they did nothing. It's all though media, and owners that give them a bad rap. Someone could own a cute little fluffy dog (like a pomeranian for example) and it could become a complete terror, attacking people (I've seen it happen).

    I'd love to own a pitbull or another rottweiler. They are great dogs. The best phrase I could ever hear and remember is, "There is no bad dog. Only bad owners."

    Anyways, what's your intake on the "dangerous dog breeds"?
  • 08-05-2010, 06:34 PM
    ed4281
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    A dog is only dangerous, when in the hands of an idoit. I have always had pitts and they are the best dogs ever, never had a problem.
  • 08-05-2010, 06:41 PM
    millcityballs
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ed4281 View Post
    A dog is only dangerous, when in the hands of an idoit. I have always had pitts and they are the best dogs ever, never had a problem.

    For sure x2
  • 08-05-2010, 06:44 PM
    BallsUnlimited
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ed4281 View Post
    A dog is only dangerous, when in the hands of an idoit. I have always had pitts and they are the best dogs ever, never had a problem.

    couldnt have said it better :gj: now what if you have a pit\rotti oo i know now you got the best of both worlds
    http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1587843_n.jpg
  • 08-05-2010, 06:47 PM
    qiksilver
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I'm a total sucker for molosser type doggies.
  • 08-05-2010, 07:00 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I agree with everyone else, dogs are only dangerous when people make them dangerous. media promotes fear of these dogs, just like they do with snakes, closed minded or uninformed people thinks what the media says is fact. simple as that
  • 08-05-2010, 07:03 PM
    sarahlovesmiike
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Any dog can become viscous when improperly trained. We've had pits, rotties, shepherds, etc etc. They've all been the best dogs and not one of them has ever shown any aggression.

    Currently, all together, we have two Cane Corsi (which I'm glad isn't a popular breed in the US because they are VERY dominant and need a dominant owner), a German Shepherd mix, two boxers, and a pug. They all get along great (that is when the girls aren't in heat) and aren't aggressive towards people. You can take toys away from them, you can take their food, you can pull their ears, and do pretty much anything you want to them. They WILL protect us, and they definitely have a creepy sensor. The Corsi and female boxer are all in protection training, but would never attack someone unless they felt we were threatened.

    My mom has a pit bull and she's a huge ham. She's the most laid back dog you could ever meet. She doesn't even bark, and would NEVER bite some one. She might kiss you to death though! Once, a man in a taxi cab told me I should be careful with her around children because she might EAT THEM. I was like, "I don't know who told you that but they were dead wrong." He proceeded to tell me that his VETERINARIAN told him that. Way to give the breed a wrong name.

    Again, any dog has the potential to become aggressive. Train the right and treat them well and the dog be submissive and will protect you all costs.
  • 08-05-2010, 07:03 PM
    abuja
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Dogs are only dangerous to non-family members. I'm afraid of someone else's rottweiler or pitt bull, but I would own one myself without hesitation.
  • 08-05-2010, 07:05 PM
    DeadLegs
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I'm with the rest on this, there is no such thing as a dangerous dog, only a dangerous owner. I have always had big dogs in my home since I was a LITTLE kid. We've had rotti's, Boxers, dobermans, great Pyrenees, and I currently own a 4 yr old pit who's only issues are severe seperation anxiety and over protectiveness. However he is SUCH an awesome boy.

    It's all in how the dog is raised and taught/socialized.
  • 08-05-2010, 07:10 PM
    chris4554
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I agree with ya'll. I don't think one dog or another is more dangerous but some can be more protective of their owner and house and that can make them come off as a dangerous or aggressive dog especially if they are a large strong breed. It makes me sad to think of all the sweet pit bulls that are in shelters and just get put down because no one wants to adopt such a 'dangerous' dog. If only stupid people couldn't own animals maybe the media would have less stuff to talk about and everyone could just start to realize the truth about these animals.
  • 08-05-2010, 07:32 PM
    dc4teg
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    pitbulls ftw :rockon:
  • 08-05-2010, 07:41 PM
    morphious
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Thats about how i see it. i have had pits most of my life and have never had a pit that was out right mean have had a few that were protective over the family
  • 08-05-2010, 07:55 PM
    sorakitty
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BallsUnlimited View Post
    couldnt have said it better :gj: now what if you have a pit\rotti oo i know now you got the best of both worlds
    http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1587843_n.jpg

    What a cutie!! I love the face!
    My gram as a rotti mixed with something, we're not sure, but he's got his puppy face. He never out grew it. I was to convince my parents to get a pit. I know that if they said no, it would be for any reason BUT being scared. They're just more of Rotti people because they have always owned rotties. This is the first time we've owned a dog that wasn't a rotti. I would love to own another rotti, but like I said, I'd love to own a pit, or a husky, or a st. bernard. With dogs like rotties, pits, huskies, and german shepherds, you just have to have a bit of a firmer foot. They need to know who's the boss (then again every dog does). My akita doesn't listen to my mom as well as she does to my dad or I. I love all does, and it upsets me that they get such bad names from the media and from pure mis-understandment.

    It makes me so happy to see how many of you own pitbulls. I watch the show pitboss and it just makes me mad when they try and adopt out a pit and everyone seemed to be like "OH GOD NO!" and walk off. If only their eyes could be opened and see they are amazing and wonderful dogs.
  • 08-05-2010, 07:55 PM
    dc4teg
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
  • 08-05-2010, 08:02 PM
    unspecified42
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Not all individuals of a breed are innately aggressive. However, some breeds do tend to have more aggressive individuals than others. Not all pit bulls are teddy bears (and neither are all daschunds for that matter).

    Also, not all aggressive dogs come from idiotic owners.

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2755/...45c44d30e3.jpg
    This is Maya, my 4 year old pit. We've had her since she was 5 months old and since about 7/8 months we've been working on her aggression issues. She is leash aggressive and sometimes dog aggressive off the leash as well. If she is leashed and gets fixated on another dog, she would be dangerous. We've done some pretty intensive work with her under the guidance of a veterinarian, even resorting to anti-anxiety medications after group obedience, desensitization training, socialization, and one-on-one obedience failed.

    (we've taken to walking like this because it wears her out so much that walks are tolerable and she has quite a bit of weight to struggle against to lunge at other dogs)
  • 08-05-2010, 08:04 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    All large dogs are potentially dangerous.

    In the hands of a decent owner, no breed is a dangerous breed.

    Individual dogs, that is another story. Just as with people, every once in a while you get a crazy one, but the vast majority of the time, if a dog behaves badly or dangerously, it is entirely the owner's fault, and not the fault of the dog, or the dog's breed.

    Owners do need to be aware of what their dog's breed was created for, and what tendencies are peculiar to that breed. It would be a mistake to claim that pit bulls are no more likely to attack other dogs than Labradors. Of course, they are. Sheepdogs are more likely to chase livestock (and people). The border collie/aussie shepard mix I had when I was a kid would allow my friends into the yard, but would not let them leave. No one taught her to do that, or reinforced it.
    Keeping that in mind allows an owner to know what areas they need to be especially careful in when they train their dog. It also allows breeders to begin to select away from undesireable traits (such as the pit bull's dog aggressiveness) that are no longer needed or wanted in the breed.

    The exception to the 'no dangerous breeds' rule are those breeds which were very deliberately bred to be aggressive towards strangers. This aggression can be so dramatic that even in the show ring, judges are advised not to touch the animal. This is a deliberate part of the personality of these guarding breeds. They are not wild or out of control, but they will not tolerate strangers.
    A good example of this is the Fila Brasileiro.
    This is most certainly a dangerous dog breed, and training alone will not make many dogs of this breed safe to be around people they do not know. They were specifically bred not to be.

    The breeds people think of in the US as being dangerous, however, really aren't.
  • 08-05-2010, 08:19 PM
    sarahlovesmiike
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I think the real issue is people using the word "aggressive" in places of "dominant". I see dogs in shelters labeled aggressive and it's already clear that they are just dominant and have never had a strong leader.

    There are surely more dominant breeds and more submissive breeds. They need to be handled differently and people who don't do research before getting a pet, ANY PET, are just asking for trouble. I did research for literally years before getting my Corso, and he's turning out wonderful. I don't know if anyone else on here has a Corso, but if you do then you know that they can be more stubborn than a pitbull. If you don't dominate them, they WILL dominate you and then you're heading for TROUBLE.
  • 08-05-2010, 08:36 PM
    Alexandra V
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    There's no such thing as a dangerous dog breed. If the dog is healthy and not acting out because it has something wrong with it, then the only reason a dog would be considered "dangerous" is because the person who brought it up was an idiot or wasn't responsible.
  • 08-05-2010, 08:44 PM
    Nate
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    They should ban the ankle biting yappers. Those are the vicious ones.

    :rolleyes:
  • 08-05-2010, 08:46 PM
    Raptor
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    With pits it honestly depends on what area you're in. I'm in an area where dog fighting still happens, despite being illegal. So, a lot of pits around here are aggressive because it's been bred into them.

    For the most part, a dog will behave how it's raised. However, personality is inheritable, so if you breed two naturally aggressive dogs together, you'll probably get aggressive pups.
  • 08-05-2010, 08:56 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Raptor is entirely correct. Poor breeding (or breeding for illegal purposes) can certainly produce aggressive dogs. Genuinely aggressive, not just dominant.

    However, that does not make the breed itself aggressive or dangerous--only the mis-bred dogs themselves. You can do the same thing with mutts--breed aggressive to aggressive, and get more aggressive. No dog breed is actually bred to be aggressive towards people across the board. Even the guarding breeds are carefully bred to be loving and protective of their family, and aggressive only toward outsiders.

    The Fox Farm experiments show that temperament is heritable in canines.
  • 08-05-2010, 09:03 PM
    Raptor
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    Raptor is entirely correct. Poor breeding (or breeding for illegal purposes) can certainly produce aggressive dogs. Genuinely aggressive, not just dominant.

    However, that does not make the breed itself aggressive or dangerous--only the mis-bred dogs themselves. You can do the same thing with mutts--breed aggressive to aggressive, and get more aggressive. No dog breed is actually bred to be aggressive towards people across the board. Even the guarding breeds are carefully bred to be loving and protective of their family, and aggressive only toward outsiders.

    The Fox Farm experiments show that temperament is heritable in canines.

    Personality is inheritable in general. With my mice, I purposely bred the pairs that didn't bit and would go calm and content when handled, despite no prior handling. I now have mice that once I catch them will happily sit in my hands and clean themselves. I have a buck goat that all his offspring are calm and docile creatures. If you breed two hot tempered horses together, you'll probably get the same with the foal (explains why most horses of a certain breed act similar).

    If you breed your animals carefully, there's no reason on why you should get an aggressive animal, with the exception of recessive genetics.
  • 08-05-2010, 09:12 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    The only dangerous dog is an untrained, neglected or abused one.

    Here is a pic of our mean old pitbull.

    He is known to lick small children into submission!
    http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...licksjacob.jpg
    http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...sbellyrubs.jpg

    Now this is a dangerous looking one!
    http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...gliestdog1.jpg
  • 08-05-2010, 09:22 PM
    CoolioTiffany
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sorakitty View Post
    What is everyone thought on the title of "dangerous dog breeds" Examples such as the chow chow, pitbull, german shepherd, rottweiler, doberman, akita, dalmatian, boxer and so on and so forth (And yes, the german shepherd is titled as a 'dangerous dog').

    I've got two dogs who are chow chow mixes. One dog is a lab chow mix, adorable and as friendly as ever (also very protective of the house and the backyard, yet friendly as heck). One dog is a german shepherd chow mix, and she is so sweet and the best listener ever. None of these dogs have EVER showed aggression towards anyone.

    We also have a german shepherd australian shepherd mix and he is the sweetest dog ever. He's a little over 14 1/2 now, but he still gives the most gentle kisses ever. And he is still VERY protective of the house and barks at anything LOL. When I was younger he saved me from a dog attacking me at the dog bark. He ran over before the dog got to me and fought the other dog.

    We also had a doberman at one point. He died soon after I was born, but from the stories I was told, he was very protective of the family but a great family dog. Someone tried breaking into the townhouse one night and was trying to turn the door handle and he was barking mad which scared off who ever was trying to break in.

    Actually, yesterday I was playing with a boxer. Boxers and pits are my favorite dogs of all time. This boxer was ADORABLE. Not mean at all in anyway, loved to play and was so sweet. I wish I could have him for myself LOL.

    Soon, I hope, I will have a boxer or a pitbull. Everyone who says one breed is dangerous is lame, they just don't understand how the dogs really are.
  • 08-05-2010, 10:26 PM
    sorakitty
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Well geez. Since other's posted photos of their pets, I'll put one up of my akita.
    http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/109_0147.jpg
    I do believe that she is a mix between japanese and american akita, if she's not pure breed japanese akita. Also she is akc registered. Her face was a full black mask when we got her. Goes to show how much her age show's though on the muzzle.

    I found an adorable rotti via a rotti rescue and I wanna take her home so bad!! She's two years old and just a freaking cutie!

    Also I wanna throw this out there, please don't think, that I think of the breeds to be "dangerous" or anything. I'm sure it would clear that if I thought they where really dangerous I wouldn't own the breeds. It was just the first thing that came to mind to me when I titled the thread.
  • 08-05-2010, 10:40 PM
    AkHerps
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Dogs are not dangerous, ignorant people who have dogs are dangerous.

    There is no real breed that is just called a "pitbull", that is simply slang term.

    Back when dog fighting started, any dog that showed aggression towards people was culled almost immedietely. If they were having them fight and went to pull them off, if the dog turned around and bit a handler, that was the end, and the dog was put to sleep. These dogs back then were family dogs, bred to guard the children, herding dogs, war heroes, and anything else they could think of to have them do, they did not allow ANY aggression towards people whatsoever.
  • 08-05-2010, 10:50 PM
    Raptor
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AkHerps View Post
    There is no real breed that is just called a "pitbull", that is simply slang term.

    http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanpitbull.htm
    http://www.bulldogbreeds.com/america...er/photos.html

    You were saying?
  • 08-05-2010, 10:58 PM
    PixieMaple
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    All I have to say is... my German Shepherd mix is the biggest wimp ever and is currently begging for a cookie.
  • 08-05-2010, 11:03 PM
    unspecified42
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I think what the other posted was referring to is the fact that the AKC does not recognize APBTs as a breed.
  • 08-05-2010, 11:08 PM
    Raptor
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by unspecified42 View Post
    I think what the other posted was referring to is the fact that the AKC does not recognize APBTs as a breed.

    The AKC is a laughing stock of what it used to be.
  • 08-05-2010, 11:13 PM
    unspecified42
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    The AKC is a laughing stock of what it used to be.

    Huh. That was a weird way to reply.
  • 08-05-2010, 11:13 PM
    AkHerps
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    There are three, American Pitbull terrier, American staffordshire terrier, and the staffordshire bull terrier.

    There is no "pitbull" as a real breed, it would technically include all three. But the media sees a pitbull as any muscular round headed dog. They would think a dojo aregentino is a pitbull, or an american bulldog is a pitbull. When they are not. I'm sure most of you couldn't pick the real APBT out of the find the pitbull test online. Because most people don't even know what a real APBT looks like.

    Back when, the APBT was the original pitty. It was recognized by the UKC. Then the AKC came alone, and didn't want the fighting being recognized with their prestigious club, so they changed the name from APBT to American Staffordshire terrier. They were the same exact thing back then. Now they are two separate breeds that look pretty different.

    The AKC is a bunch of bull crap, all they worry about is how the dog looks according to some standard written down on a piece of paper. The UKC worries about looks and whether or not the dog can actually do the job they were bred to do.

    Both registries in my opinion are pointless. A dog can have a debilitating genetic disease and still be able to win best in show. They don't care about the health, just the looks.
  • 08-05-2010, 11:49 PM
    alexOATH
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ed4281 View Post
    A dog is only dangerous, when in the hands of an idoit. I have always had pitts and they are the best dogs ever, never had a problem.

    +1

    Couldn't have said it better myself
  • 08-06-2010, 09:23 AM
    The Hedgehog
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    There are some very good responses in this thread.

    I share my Mom's and my dad's dogs seperately. My mom has 3 and all 3 could potentially be "dangerous breeds". A lab/chow mix, a pit/dobbi/rotti/sharpaie(Sp?) mix, and a pit/mutt mix. All three are the most sweet and loving dogs, and wouldn't hurt a fly. My boy surf the pit/dobi/rotti mix was abused when he was a tiny puppy. We picked him up from a shelter when he was probably 8 months old, and he is absolutely the biggest wuss in the world. He has abondanment issues, but he's never been aggressive and is always submissive to any male figure. I feel bad, but I'm probably the only male he will rough house with. It's all in how you train them. We didn't have to establish who's the alpha male in the house, but we did have to work with him to make sure none of those traits that are potentially "Dangerous" in him, rear their ugly head. I couldn't ask for a better dog. I'll post a pic later for sure.

    My dad's dogs are all "normal" breeds. A lab/aussie shepard mix (like 75% lab), a sheltie, and a yorkie rat terrier thing. (She's actually the worst lol) I would venture to say that out of the 6 dogs I see on a regular basis, my mom's are just as well mannered and behaved as my dad's. It's all in how you train them.
  • 08-06-2010, 09:40 AM
    Swingline0.0.1
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/IMG_1804.jpg


    Now THIS is a dangerous dog! Seriously though, you just need to train your dog.
  • 08-06-2010, 09:45 AM
    sho220
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    My Mom was out walking her Chocolate Lab Jake last weekend when out of no where a Pit comes crashing through the front door of a house and proceeds to attack Jake. It was apparently quite a ruckus because it caught the attention of other homeowners who came out to see what was going on. My Mom got knocked to the ground trying to protect Jake. Jake got several superficial bites in the process. What does the owner of the Pit do? She runs out of her house and is yelling "My dog didn't knock you down! My dog didn't knock you down!!!" Not, are you okay? Are you hurt? Is your dog okay? Is there anything I can do?"

    That is where Pits get their bad rap. Pits are great dogs. My wifes Aunt has raised and bred Pits for years. Pits are attractive dogs to good, responsible owners, and sadly to irresponsible idiots as well. The big problem is that an idiot with a Chihuahua is just an idiot with a Chihuahua. An idiot with a Pit can be very dangerous...
  • 08-06-2010, 09:48 AM
    sho220
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Swingline0.0.1 View Post
    http://i985.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/IMG_1804.jpg


    Now THIS is a dangerous dog! Seriously though, you just need to train your dog.

    Yup...vicious...so is she...vvv

    http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...tos/haley3.jpg
  • 08-06-2010, 07:26 PM
    Mephys
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I work at a vet and I cannot count how many times a chihuahua or a Shih-tzu tried to bite me. People tend to laugh at those just because they are small dogs, but they are just as bad as any untrained dog. Make them a 100lbs and we will see which breed is dangerous.

    People treat them like children rather than dogs and most of them just because really spoiled and dominant and out of control.

    A breed doesn't make a dog, a person does. Unfortunately idiots give those dogs a bad reputation.

    I love pit and rotts, they are just the best.
  • 08-06-2010, 07:30 PM
    AkHerps
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    The usually call it "little dog syndrome" when little dogs act like they are giant dogs in tiny bodies...:P

    Breeds can sometimes make a dog, as in, some breeds have a very different personality than another breed of dog. But no breeds have been bred to show aggression towards people, unless trained to be an attack dog, but that is training for a specific job, they aren't people aggressiev all the time. Chow chows are one of the few breeds that were bred to be aggressive towards dogs, but they never stopped them from being aggressive towards people, which causes problems, but I've met plently of nice chow chow's before.

    Same goes for other breeds, mastiffs and great pyrenees are known to be more stubborn then let's say, a border collie, which love to learn and please their leaders.(owners)
  • 08-06-2010, 07:56 PM
    SpartaDog
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I have a pit/boxer mix, and she's a sweetheart. The only time she ever shows aggression is when she feels someone in my family is threatened (for example, when a man come s into the house an dad's not home).

    There's actually been a study on the skull and jaw structure of pit bulls compared to other types of dogs. Pits do not of locking jaws, nor are their jaw muscles significantly stronger than other dogs'. What makes pits and other fighting breeds so "dangerous" is that they have an extremely high pain threshold and an incredible tenacity.

    I actually did my sophomore English research paper on BSL and why it should stand for bullshizz laws. I like to think my logic kicked the government's ass. I got a 90 on it, so I guess.... XD
  • 08-06-2010, 08:13 PM
    AkHerps
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    There's actually been a study on the skull and jaw structure of pit bulls compared to other types of dogs. Pits do not of locking jaws, nor are their jaw muscles significantly stronger than other dogs'. What makes pits and other fighting breeds so "dangerous" is that they have an extremely high pain threshold and an incredible tenacity.
    Very right, pits jaws are no different than any other dogs.

    They are in the group terrier, which in latin means terror. Most terriers act very "feisty" such as Jack russell terriers, schnauzers, etc..

    Any good pit rescue will tell you to never to bring pits to a dork park, because if there is a fight, there is almost no way you can get a pit off except with a bite stick. They are just incredibly determined when it comes to holding on, especially when playing with tug toys, like most terriers. Most are very nice, but there are some that just strongly dislike other dogs.

    Pure APBT's have a very high possibility of becoming dog aggressive around the age of 2 years old, because fighting is in their genetic history. APBT are closely related to the fighting strain of dogs, while American Staffordshire terriers are less prone to dog aggression. Many owners socialize their dogs wonderfuly and then they say it's like a light switch being turned on. They just stop liking other dogs, and you can't completely get rid of it, but you can manage it and the dogs can usually have other doggy friends that they get along with.
  • 08-06-2010, 08:23 PM
    glk832
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I just got out.of.the dog game.as we call it lol pitbulls wouldn't heart a fly
  • 08-06-2010, 08:42 PM
    unspecified42
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AkHerps View Post
    Pure APBT's have a very high possibility of becoming dog aggressive around the age of 2 years old, because fighting is in their genetic history. APBT are closely related to the fighting strain of dogs, while American Staffordshire terriers are less prone to dog aggression. Many owners socialize their dogs wonderfuly and then they say it's like a light switch being turned on. They just stop liking other dogs, and you can't completely get rid of it, but you can manage it and the dogs can usually have other doggy friends that they get along with.

    This is what happened to mine, only she was a bit younger. And she's fine with dogs she knows and almost always fine with even stranger dogs so long as she isn't leashed. But no amount of training, medication, or socialization has been able to stop it yet.
  • 08-06-2010, 08:57 PM
    AkHerps
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Yeah, it's the giant downfall to pits, that many owners do not know about and it is soooo common. There are 2 year old pits everywhere in my shelter, and I think it's maybe partly because they had a great friendly dog, and then something happened, they don't know why, and they don't know how to deal with it.

    I don't think I'd ever get a pit puppy, just because I would hate for that to happen, but I would gladly adopt an older pitty from a shelter. I all for adoption :D
  • 08-06-2010, 09:13 PM
    unspecified42
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AkHerps View Post
    Yeah, it's the giant downfall to pits, that many owners do not know about and it is soooo common. There are 2 year old pits everywhere in my shelter, and I think it's maybe partly because they had a great friendly dog, and then something happened, they don't know why, and they don't know how to deal with it.

    I don't think I'd ever get a pit puppy, just because I would hate for that to happen, but I would gladly adopt an older pitty from a shelter. I all for adoption :D

    Mine was a shelter puppy:) I had considered rehoming her for a while because of her aggression, honestly. I even tried to surrender her to the Humane Society but she (of course) tried to attack the other dog so they refused to take her. But we're still working through it. I just know it's one of her issues and we work through or around it, depending on the situation.

    It's unfortunate that so many people believe that dogs can only be aggressive if they have crappy owners. People need to be aware that any dog can have aggression issues even if they are raised kindly and are well socialized. It needs to be something you consider when bringing a dog into your family.
  • 08-06-2010, 09:34 PM
    SpartaDog
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Mine's a shelter dog too. We got her at two and a half. She was in there for the second time because she attacked a smaller dog (both times), though we think the smaller dogs provoked her because she's got scars all over her legs. Since we got her, we've noticed that she's fine with any dogs her size or larger, but anything smaller is automatically a target to her.

    It makes having that Siamese I've always wanted a little difficult....
  • 08-06-2010, 09:43 PM
    slitheryz
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    I also agree with you guys. Dogs are only dangerous in the hands of ignorant people, that don't know how to train their dogs. Rotties, Pits, Shepherds, yeah they are big breeds and can be vicious. Did we forget about the little breeds maybe they don't have the weight to back them up, but they are all with teeth and they know how to use them too. I hear over and over of little dog breeds biting more and more because people treat them like people and carry them around. These little dogs don't even know they are dogs anymore and do nothing but bite. Pits and Rotties are beautiful and wonderful dogs, kudos to owners that are GOOD OWNERS AND TRAIN.... :bow:
  • 08-06-2010, 09:49 PM
    tonyaltn
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ed4281 View Post
    A dog is only dangerous, when in the hands of an idoit.

    Exactly :gj:
  • 08-06-2010, 10:08 PM
    djansen
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Honestly im afraid of most dogs, always have been. I dont like dogs and they dont like me and MOST dog owners annoy the heck out of me.
    Not everyone likes dogs and people need to realize this. I work pest control and am always going into peoples back yards and I come across alot of dogs and I think its incredibly inconsiderate to not lock your dog up while you have a service done. I dont care if its being protective or it just does not know you thats how people get bit and it only takes once. At my old neighborhood I could not run around the block without more then one dog come flying out from someones house and barking and growling at me. Im seriously thinking about carrying pepper spray. Most of these "dangerous" breeds are protective by nature so unless your growing pot or trying to protect something valuable whats the point of having such a risk? Unless your a hermit and live way up in nowhere keep your dog locked up.
    and people say reptile owners are carless.
    Sorry, end rant. I do understand that there are responsible people out there but to me there are far to many morons out there.
    I say make there ALOT of rules on these dogs when it comes to locking them up or always on a leash.
  • 08-06-2010, 10:19 PM
    AkHerps
    Re: "Dangerous dog breeds"
    Carry a walking stick when walking, and the best, best method to deter dogs is plant your feet, stick out your arm, make a stop sign with your hands(fingers spread out) and give a loud stern NO! It surprises them, then say it again, and step towards the dog still giving a stern NO! If the dog wants to attack you, it will before you get a chance to say no, but if it's just bluffing, which most are, this works 99% of the time. I use it when I walk my dog.
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