On the spider ball python's special traits.

Hey guys! What's up?

So, anyways, I got a spider ball python a few months and I'm really just fascinated about how this morph is truly unique.

Ok, so i know that "spider" is just another morph of a ball python. However, it seems to prove itself much more different than the rest.

According to NERD,
a) A spider ball python is a more aggressive feeder ( And, I have yet to read a post saying that their spider is off-feed) ( Mine eats like a pig too)
b) He says on the site that Spider ball pythons have a more "outgoing" personality ( Whatever that means)

Anyways, What's your opinion? Is it true? More importantly, Why does this particular morph carry these special traits? Are there other morphs that exhibit the same?

I know my mojaves have really good personalities, and albinos can be a PITA as far as feeding goes. Ive heard pieds are iffy on breeding, taking an extra year to get going compared to other snakes. As far as food, my spider's a good eater. Shes not outgoing though, shes very reclusive I think.

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Originally Posted by pcocabo

Hey guys! What's up?

So, anyways, I got a spider ball python a few months and I'm really just fascinated about how this morph is truly unique.

Ok, so i know that "spider" is just another morph of a ball python. However, it seems to prove itself much more different than the rest.

According to NERD,
a) A spider ball python is a more aggressive feeder ( And, I have yet to read a post saying that their spider is off-feed) ( Mine eats like a pig too)
b) He says on the site that Spider ball pythons have a more "outgoing" personality ( Whatever that means)

Anyways, What's your opinion? Is it true? More importantly, Why does this particular morph carry these special traits? Are there other morphs that exhibit the same?

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I'm not sure if you can say it is much more different than the rest.

a.) yes, my spider is also a great feeder. But I heard that pinstripes are the same.
b.) not sure what that means because my spider does not have an outgoing personality or anywhere close to it.

Some morphs have wobbles, some morphs have kinks, some morphs produce offspring that makes you scratch your head (a white snake from yellow bellies... why is that?) every morph is unique in my opinion.

My male spider is a picky eater...but very outgoing...
my female spider is great eater but a bit shy...

My male spider is an awesome eater but is a little shy!

My spiders are very funny. I have only noticed a wobble out of them one time. Since then they haven't made any noticeable wobbles. I have heard it comes and goes at will and think it's just a added extra to the the breed. As far as outgoing, They haven't tried to get out yet so I would say mine are pretty easy going. Now my Pastel Male is very outgoing.....

I say a spider is a ball python and they eat and act no different than any other ball except their wonderful wobble and spin issues.

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

I say a spider is a ball python and they eat and act no different than any other ball except their wonderful wobble and spin issues.

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+1

I will have to respectfully disagree with NERD. Our spider went off feed and just got back on a couple months ago, she went through a 4 month fast. and she is got to be one of the most shy ball pythons we have.

to each snake its own

I have a spider that's still a baby. She is a shy feeder, but otherwise seems normal. She doesn't head wobble, but she can't hit the mouse she's striking at to save her life. Its bad. All snakes miss on occasion, but it takes this snake lots of tries, even when the mouse is just inches from it's head.

As a trend, though, I've found spiders to be good eaters, yes.

I had one spider that was a difficult starter, but once she got going, she was just like the rest...gobbled food left and right.
My male spider goes off feed during the breeding season, like most of my males, but outside of that, he eats like a hog.
I have not yet had a spider that was finicky or skipped meals for no reason.
I've seen this once in a while in nearly every other morph I've bred, but not spiders.

I'm absolutely sure there are exceptions, but I'm not convinced that they really aren't just exceptions to a general rule.

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

+1

I will have to respectfully disagree with NERD. Our spider went off feed and just got back on a couple months ago, she went through a 4 month fast. and she is got to be one of the most shy ball pythons we have.

to each snake its own

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+1 My Bee was a FANTASTIC eater...up to 600 grams...then he went on a 6 month fast... :) He was also the most shy of my BPs...very sweet, but wasn't keen on being anywhere but in his hide (even had to put his f/t rats IN his hide on feeding days)!

My spider is the most shy and the pickiest eater out of my 7 ball pythons.

Edit: I feel like I copied off of The Mad Baller! LOL! ^^^


My Spider is the worst feeder and the most shy of all my snakes. Very beautiful snakes though. At the end of the day it just comes down to the individual snakes personality. They are all different.

I have four spiders. Three feed exceptionally well. One female is a very poor feeder - she MIGHT accept feed once a month.

All four have outgoing personalities.

I don't notice any difference between my spider and the rest of my morphs, hets, and normals. But that's only one snake, so it's not really a great sample size.

I have to agree with spiders being outgoing and good eaters 75% of the time. :rofl:

I have four spiders (one is a bee) and only the big female is shy, VERY shy. Even our newest hatchling is outgoing. She has never balled up like all our other babies and seems to want to explore more. As far a feeding, our bee and our big male are great feeders (aside from going off feed for breeding). Again, our big female spider is a HORRIBLE eater, one of our worst.

My spider (yearling male) is a great feeder - never refuses unless he's in shed, and takes 2-3 mice per feeding now. Not sure if I'd call him outgoing, but he's not really shy either... he's totally fine with being handled, and always wants to explore when you take him out. He is a little head-shy, like most ball pythons, but has never struck or hissed at me. So I guess he sorta fits the "spider stereotypes," and I think he's awfully handsome to boot. ;)

As for the wobble, his has been fairly non-existent since he was a baby. I used to notice it when he fed, with a little head wobble before striking... now I don't even see that, so he's about as close to wobble-free as a spider can be. Speaking of which, how would I advertise his future babies? Nearly wobble-free dad, or what? :cool:

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Originally Posted by Lolo76

Speaking of which, how would I advertise his future babies? Nearly wobble-free dad, or what? :cool:

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I just rate the wobble on the babies (it's pretty subjective) and disclose it in the ad as a matter of course. I assume people want to know how much or little of a wobble a baby spider has. It doesn't affect sales either way, and I've never produced a train wreck. I've had some hatchlings with no discernable wobble out of my male (who does have a typical, low to moderate wobble).

You guys are awesome! this site beats yahoo answers any day with balls! haha =))

My spider is really chill and a great eater so far. (Only had him 3 weeks or so)

Spider morphs are identical in every aspect and characteristic to other morphs but for one thing:
They wobble.
Every last one of them wobble.
A little wobble that shows itself out of the egg, or a medium wobble that starts to exhibit at a round a year; they all (or will) do it.
Without exception.

My first BP was a male spider, Never have any feeding problems with him.
Great personality very outgoing.. never curl up before.
I think what NERD ment with outgoing is not easily scared and end up going off feed.

What do u all think?

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Originally Posted by sparkz

I think what NERD ment with outgoing is not easily scared and end up going off feed.

What do u all think?

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Dare I repeat...:P
I say a spider is a ball python and they eat and act no different than any other ball except their wonderful wobble and spin issues.