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  • 07-30-2010, 09:43 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Kona!
    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...0730000639.jpg


    i think theres one more in her but idk if they look "good"
  • 07-30-2010, 10:08 AM
    SlitherinSisters
    Re: Kona!
    I'd say two to three more ;)
  • 07-30-2010, 10:10 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    i am so happy shes laying tho her eggs look nothing like lucy's here to hoping theyre good! and i hope there two or three more hope she does it befor i have to goto work
  • 07-30-2010, 10:31 AM
    scutechute
    Re: Kona!
    Congrats and good luck

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JEWSKIN View Post
    hope she does it befor i have to goto work

    It's Friday! :banana:
  • 07-30-2010, 12:09 PM
    Quiet Tempest
    Re: Kona!
    Congrats! :) And you caught her in the act!
  • 07-30-2010, 12:44 PM
    Jsh
    Re: Kona!
    Congrats!
  • 07-30-2010, 12:53 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    been up two nights waiting for it sigh of relief
  • 07-30-2010, 01:13 PM
    jsschrei
    Re: Kona!
    Congrats! I caught one of my girls starting to lay before I had to go to work. I was a wreck all day wondering if they were alright and how many she'd lay. Got home to 5 nice eggs. Best wishes!!!
  • 07-30-2010, 02:39 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    thanks i have to head in now sigh ugh dtill only two its been hours
  • 07-30-2010, 02:52 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Kona!
    Congrats, they look good, just candle them before throwing them into the inc to see if they have veins
    and you'll know if they got fertilized.
  • 07-30-2010, 03:29 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    well i took the two shes laid its been six hours and she wasnt coiling around the ones she laid but i candled them and they had veins. so they are in my emergency setup i threw together last week to make sure it held temp and humidity. she was rolling them around she looks to have just one egg stuck so a small clutch but its her first im worried sick at work tho
  • 07-30-2010, 03:29 PM
    sarahlovesmiike
    Re: Kona!
    Well that sucks :( I was looking forward to following her throughout the incubation process. Congrats on the good eggs though!
  • 07-30-2010, 03:58 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    she hasn't coiled them in six hours they're in an emergency incubator I put together last week to make sure it'd maintain everything. I had a hunch she would give me the issues why cause she the one i am most attached to so it's only logical to give mom more gray hairs lol
  • 07-30-2010, 04:00 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    i was looking forward to it but as always my hunches are right with my critters though I will keep posted on the eggs every couple of days they are tiny but have great veins
  • 07-30-2010, 08:55 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    so just got home from work and yeah no egg further down so Ive been letting her crawl through my hands working it further fingers crossed
  • 07-30-2010, 10:28 PM
    Animals As Leaders
    Re: Kona!
    AWESOME!!! :banana:

    I would leave her be. If she got the first ones out, the other ones aren't far behind. Keep us posted!!
  • 07-30-2010, 10:36 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    her first two are small theres only one more and well its been over 10hrs now am i crazy to stress she keeps moving pressing hard going through her water bowl she is my fav of the two adult girls i cant bear to think of losing her or anything sigh so scared
  • 07-30-2010, 10:40 PM
    Animals As Leaders
    Re: Kona!
    I would leave her be till morning, and if still nothing maybe try soaking her? Never ran into egg binding issues yet wish I could give better advice. But I wouldn't worry too too much just because she was able to pass the other ones.
  • 07-30-2010, 10:47 PM
    A.VinczeBPs
    Re: Kona!
    Give her until morning. If there is still no egg, give her short soak and see if you can work it a bit further down then leave her be.

    On a side note, just out of curiosity...How much does she weight now? And how much did she weight when you stated breeding her?
  • 07-30-2010, 10:47 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    oh i should take a pic of those two eggs they are smaller than the one in her now she wasn't coiling on them so until she passes this they r in a temp incubator setup (thank goodness I listened to my instincts and set it up) I have not cleaned her cage you think after she passes this she'll incubate her eggs?
  • 07-30-2010, 10:50 PM
    Animals As Leaders
    Re: Kona!
    Well my last female was kind of all over the place when she laid as well. Didn't take quite as long as what your explaining here, but she wasn't still. All my other girls stayed in a nice coil the whole time. I can't see her not coiling them as long as the scent is there, and there not bad "kicked out" eggs.
  • 07-30-2010, 10:53 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Animals As Leaders View Post
    Well my last female was kind of all over the place when she laid as well. Didn't take quite as long as what your explaining here, but she wasn't still. All my other girls stayed in a nice coil the whole time. I can't see her not coiling them as long as the scent is there, and there not bad "kicked out" eggs.



    they have great veins in them but they are very small compared to lucys
  • 07-30-2010, 10:55 PM
    Animals As Leaders
    Re: Kona!
    Hey j.c but why don't you incubate them yourself? Its a lot less stressful I'm sure lol
  • 07-30-2010, 11:01 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by A.VinczeBPs View Post
    Give her until morning. If there is still no egg, give her short soak and see if you can work it a bit further down then leave her be.

    On a side note, just out of curiosity...How much does she weight now? And how much did she weight when you stated breeding her?




    when i started breeding her she was around 2000g now not quite sure shes a bit thinner but she ate all the way up until two months ago she was paire with my male vendetta for about two weeks with 4 witnessed locks that lasted 24hrs or more. he was just a little guy himself maybe 1100g. this is her first clutch
  • 07-30-2010, 11:48 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    Kona's two eggs laid over ten hours ago great veins quarter there for size ref

    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...1/GEDC0045.jpg



    Lucy's eggs also a quarter place for size ref

    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...utch7210-1.jpg

    ugh am i just freaking for no reason oh ps please dont mind the temp setup with Kona's eggs it is only temp and every thing is steady 90-100% humidity and 89-90 on temp
  • 07-31-2010, 12:14 AM
    Animals As Leaders
    Re: Kona!
    http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/...n/101_0551.jpg

    This was my last clutch laid, and they had more of an oval shape like yours. There incubating fine so far...

    I would say relax. Forget you have a bp that just laid eggs, and wait till morning. I know its hard, but its like a watch pot never boils kinda thing. Although my one girl really didn't care while I watched her pass her eggs lol. Just give her some privacy maybe she feels stressed? I'll bet you she'll pass the egg overnight ;)
  • 07-31-2010, 12:36 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    i really hope so she is the one ball python besides the baby i just got that loves to be touched not head shy or anything really hard to stress her
  • 07-31-2010, 10:29 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    well must have done something right sigh but shes out of the woods. I stayed up yet another night with her to ensure nothing went wrong this was of course after gently massaging the egg from about a third way up her body down. I did this over about an hour. Placed her back in her cage fresh water warmth as she peered at me like really you haven't held me for months grrrr (yes I talk to my snakes yes I know they don't have ears but Hannibal would make you think twice. I took the water bowl out after she got a huge drink from it covered her cage with a towel and peeked in throughout the night. Finally about 630 this morning she laid it only took her 20min but she did it yay.....mind you I also received a drunk texts followed by me calling them and getting coherent instructions on how to see if the egg was sliding and would prob pass. well I candled it to check for veins and sure enough they're there all three eggs have veins though one laid yesterday looks iffy at best now to put together something not so emergency for an incubator.......to the net I go I will post a pic of the eggs within the hour as well as mommy she wasn't interested in coiling any of them so I guess shes just meant to pop em out and fatten up for next time if I breed her again....




    Thank you all for the help and support any suggestions from here on out such as for an easy setup incubator ect are much appreciated


    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
  • 07-31-2010, 10:38 AM
    SansCera
    Re: Kona!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JEWSKIN View Post
    mind you I also received a drunk texts followed by me calling them and getting coherent instructions on how to see if the egg was sliding and would prob pass.

    lol...sounds like you have some lushy pals :carouse:

    Glad she laid that egg, now you can finally get some sleep :clap:
  • 07-31-2010, 10:56 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    sleep would be nice however kids will be up soon and well noon comes time for me watching grown men battle little kids in yugiho
  • 07-31-2010, 11:11 AM
    Matt K
    Re: Kona!
    Congratulation on the three eggs, glad it worked out! Snakes do have ears by the way, just no external ear opening--so talk away and feel less crazy.

    Cheers,
    -Matt
  • 07-31-2010, 11:44 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...0731000804.jpg the eggs the one closest is the last one out


    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...0731000805.jpglast eggs out tiny veins but there

    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...731000805a.jpg second egg better lookin than the others

    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...731000805b.jpg first eggs and well you know its the iffy one


    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...0731000816.jpg Kona's top half I was also given her as a normal but her markings and color are exceptional as well as a white belly

    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...0731000817.jpgHer back half see pretty pattern and color

    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...0731000829.jpg just for fun put the new baby i got next to her for color and size ref so cute
  • 07-31-2010, 11:51 AM
    anatess
    Re: Kona!
    Hi Jewskin, glad everything is turning out great.

    I have an emergency incubator that I used for my eggs. This is how I made them:
    1. I bought a styrofoam cooler from the grocery. It was cheap.
    2. I bought a plastic storage container that is deep and wide enough to hold about 3 inches of substrate plus the eggs and that will fit in the cooler. I found a clear one for 99 cents which was perfect coz I can see the eggs through the container.
    3. I got vermiculite from Lowes. Make sure it doesn't have fertilizer.
    4. I got a UTH for 10-20 gallon tanks.
    5. I got 5 same-sized Gatorade bottles that fits snug on the bottom of the cooler. My cooler fit 5 perfectly tight so they don't move.
    6. I got a small plexiglass (polycarbonate) sheet from Lowes to fit the bottom of the tank. You can use a piece of plywood too.

    Ok, I laid the plexi on the bottom of the cooler then laid the UTH on top of that. I didn't peel off the sticker so I can use the UTH somewhere else after I'm done incubating. Then I filled the bottles with water and laid them on top of the UTH. Then I got enough vermiculite to cover about 3 inches of the storage container and then added water enough to moisten the vermiculite so that I can squeeze it into a ball and it stays like that but that it doesn't drip water when squeezed. Some guys here use that white lighting grate on top of the verm just to make sure the eggs dont get sopping wet.

    Run a thermostat for the UTH and set the probe on the UTH. Run an accurite thermometer probe right on top of the vermiculite and put the box on top of the water bottles. Let the temperature stabilize to 88-89 degrees.

    Put the eggs in the box and cover the box with press and seal then put the lid on. It's ok if you don't have air holes. Humidity should be close to 100 this way and condensation will not form on the press and seal that could rain on the eggs.

    That's pretty much it. Just open the box every 2-3 days after that.

    Now, I added a feature to my cooler. I cut a rectangular opening on the lid and glued a plexi sheet on it so I can see inside the egg box without opening the incubator. I found myself opening the thing every 15 minutes which made the temps swing because the eggs were already cut when I moved them to the incubator.

    Hope this helps!
  • 07-31-2010, 11:55 AM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    thanks looks like I have a run around after work sigh but hopefully they pull through
  • 07-31-2010, 01:38 PM
    Animals As Leaders
    Re: Kona!
    Hey again!!

    Glad they came out alright!!!

    Sounds like you had a crazy night, but at least all turned out well. Hey why not just go to farm feed store, or tractor supply and buy a chicken egg incubator? There 50 bucks and they have a thermostat to control the heat. Worked out great for me. I ended up buying two of them actually...I just don't like worrying lol. Although I am going to make one over the course of this next year as I intend on have a few more clutches. One incubator is good for two clutches I found. Just an idea...

    By the way, Kona is quite a pretty girl. Hopefully you get some funky looking babies(and I mean that in a good way lol)!
  • 07-31-2010, 01:52 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Animals As Leaders View Post
    Hey again!!

    Glad they came out alright!!!

    Sounds like you had a crazy night, but at least all turned out well. Hey why not just go to farm feed store, or tractor supply and buy a chicken egg incubator? There 50 bucks and they have a thermostat to control the heat. Worked out great for me. I ended up buying two of them actually...I just don't like worrying lol. Although I am going to make one over the course of this next year as I intend on have a few more clutches. One incubator is good for two clutches I found. Just an idea...

    By the way, Kona is quite a pretty girl. Hopefully you get some funky looking babies(and I mean that in a good way lol)!

    she was given to me the person didn't want her that's how i ended up with several of my snakes started rescuing and adopting them out after that the ones I kept are mine for the rest of their lives so I really hope her three eggs hatch sigh
    her clutch I was looking for ward to most I'll take better pics later with my actual camera though it sucks too give me a bit and there will be killer photos
  • 07-31-2010, 01:54 PM
    Animals As Leaders
    Re: Kona!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JEWSKIN View Post
    she was given to me the person didn't want her that's how i ended up with several of my snakes started rescuing and adopting them out after that the ones I kept are mine for the rest of their lives so I really hope her three eggs hatch sigh
    her clutch I was looking for ward to most I'll take better pics later with my actual camera though it sucks too give me a bit and there will be killer photos

    Good deal :D
  • 07-31-2010, 02:50 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    every time i look at her i notice something new lol i love love love her "?" mark hehe
  • 07-31-2010, 06:26 PM
    JEWSKIN
    Re: Kona!
    Well Kona seems fine a good cage cleaning some loves and now shes demanding a meal yes this is her saying feed me



    http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...0731001358.jpg
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