My First Morph (spider)

Well i just purchased my First morph and he's a beauty. Lemme know what u think :)

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Good looking snake! Now get some weight on him! haha

pretty boy! congrats on the nice pick up:gj:

Thats a nice looking boy, Congratz on your first morph!

-Payson!

Nice first morph!

Mine was also a spider, which also turns out to be the first morph I produced as well.

Congrats!

Thanks everyone =) i am really excited. and i think the guy i bought it off of said he had some pastel, genetic stripe, and bumble bee gene's too... im hoping when i breed him ill get some killer combos =P

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Originally Posted by BradR

Thanks everyone =) i am really excited. and i think the guy i bought it off of said he had some pastel, genetic stripe, and bumble bee gene's too... im hoping when i breed him ill get some killer combos =P

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He is very gorgeous, but I'm afraid if you put him with a normal you will only get spiders and normals. Unless of course he's het for genetic stripe. But, there won't be any pastels there.

He's nice and clean though, if you put him with a pastel he'll make you some very nice bee's :)

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Originally Posted by BradR

Thanks everyone =) i am really excited. and i think the guy i bought it off of said he had some pastel, genetic stripe, and bumble bee gene's too... im hoping when i breed him ill get some killer combos =P

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Your spider doesn't have the pastel gene as there are no het pastels, only visual pastels. If he was pastel and spider he would be a bee. pastel + spider = bee

Also, I don't think he would be het for genetic stripe as you don't see many around and they would cost much more than a normal spider.

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Originally Posted by BradR

Thanks everyone =) i am really excited. and i think the guy i bought it off of said he had some pastel, genetic stripe, and bumble bee gene's too... im hoping when i breed him ill get some killer combos =P

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He's a spider, no extra genes came with him unless you paid for them ;)

PS He's a beauty, now find a pretty pastel girl to make some bees of your own in a couple years :D

yes and i asked him about that and he had said about the bee thing... from what i understand pastel is Co-Dom gene and from my understanding its really not "Het" unless u physically see the trait in a co dom morph (and u generally dont call it het). and then the homozygous form is the super or whatever and i don't see any kind of killer bee thing going on with him soo he may have confused me a lil bit haha =P but am i right in the above statement as far as the understanding of the co-dom genetic?

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

He's a spider, no extra genes came with him unless you paid for them ;)

PS He's a beauty, now find a pretty pastel girl to make some bees of your own in a couple years :D

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well he just got them back from a reptile show, and was shipping the remainder to his other place in canada soo i only paid for as much it would take for him to ship and stuff. he was actually just going to give me one till the other people he works on breeding with said "well lets not just give him one we will just cut him a huge break" soo needless to say i got a good price on him :D

Lol. I think the guy is a little confused. Most of the time, het means you can't see the gene. You will only prove it by breeding. For example, het albino:

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ght=het+albino

Now, to confuse you, I suppose a mojave could be het for a blue eyed lucy. Since, the homozygous form is a BEL, but most people just call them mojaves. Take a look at this:

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs

Read through the morphs. It's helpful for beginners. Good Luck!

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Originally Posted by stratus_020202

Lol. I think the guy is a little confused. Most of the time, het means you can't see the gene. You will only prove it by breeding. For example, het albino:

http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...ght=het+albino

Now, to confuse you, I suppose a mojave could be het for a blue eyed lucy. Since, the homozygous form is a BEL, but most people just call them mojaves. Take a look at this:

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs

Read through the morphs. It's helpful for beginners. Good Luck!

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yes as a pastel could be considered het for super pastel, as all other co-dom morphs and there "super forms" right? =P

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Originally Posted by BradR

yes as a pastel could be considered het for super pastel, as all other co-dom morphs and there "super forms" right? =P

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Yeah. You got it, but mostly we don't refer to them as hets. I've heard a few people do it. We try not to confuse ourselves more than we have to :)

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Originally Posted by BradR

yes as a pastel could be considered het for super pastel, as all other co-dom morphs and there "super forms" right? =P

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Yes, a pastel is a visual het for super pastel and yes all co-doms are technically visual hets for their super form.

ok soo anyone have a pastel i can breed with him to make some bee's =P... i currently have had one clutch of normals i bred myself but that was it =P

I'd help but our pastel coming in has a date with a clown male :P

Congrats on your first morph and congrats on the Spider :) He's a beauty.

Now he definitely needs to have a date with a pastel to make some bees!

I just got my Cinny girl and I won't be getting another BP for a few months, but my next one is definitely a spider!

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Originally Posted by Mephys

Congrats on your first morph and congrats on the Spider :) He's a beauty.

Now he definitely needs to have a date with a pastel to make some bees!

I just got my Cinny girl and I won't be getting another BP for a few months, but my next one is definitely a spider!

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thanks :) and gratz on the Cinny. the pictures dont do too much justice on him but the back stripe on him is alot brighter than it shows in the pic also where the color breaks up at the bottom he has some orange speckles and yellow that looks really cool.

I was just thanking about this for a minute and I think the guy might have said something like this. "...hes got some nice reduced striping just like his dad that might be genetic...take this guy to a pastel and you might produce some killer looking bumblebees..." LOL! Boredom..

I could see that interpreted as something like this.

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Originally Posted by BradR

Thanks everyone =) i am really excited. and i think the guy i bought it off of said he had some pastel, genetic stripe, and bumble bee gene's too... im hoping when i breed him ill get some killer combos =P

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Originally Posted by Jsh

I was just thanking about this for a minute and I think the guy might have said something like this. "...hes got some nice reduced striping just like his dad that might be genetic...take this guy to a pastel and you might produce some killer looking bumblebees..." LOL! Boredom..

I could see that interpreted as something like this.

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very well could of been a misunderstanding as that im serious haha... but hey we arent perfect =P, and to be honest if he has any other genetics or not i only paid.....here it goes $100 for him =P

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Originally Posted by BradR

very well could of been a misunderstanding as that im serious haha... but hey we arent perfect =P, and to be honest if he has any other genetics or not i only paid.....here it goes $100 for him =P

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Not bad, I sold 2 male spiders last season for $80 each, they thought they had struck a gold mine.
I did it to lessen my hold backs.

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Originally Posted by BradR

very well could of been a misunderstanding as that im serious haha... but hey we arent perfect =P, and to be honest if he has any other genetics or not i only paid.....here it goes $100 for him =P

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LOL, I was just thinking about my first encounter of morph talk. :rolleye2::confused::rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by Jsh

LOL, I was just thinking about my first encounter of morph talk. :rolleye2::confused::rolleye2:

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hahaha nice, yea it is a bit overwhelming at first =P