pastave or pastave spider?

http://davidperkinsreptiles.com/phot...tave%20002.jpg
http://davidperkinsreptiles.com/phot...tave%20003.jpg

Definitely no Spider in there.

The pics in your links look like it's just a pastel?

Here are a pastel x mojave and pastel x mojave x spider that recently hatched for reference:
http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/DSC_0034.jpg

I swear I posted a quick reply before Tim did but anyway, I agree with Tim and Jeff, definitely no spiders and those look like pastels. I don't see any marks that I would expect to see in a Pastel Mojave.

These pics don't really do the snake justice at all. Based on what I've seen on the cam I think it is a pastave.

yea just looks like a regular pastel to me too...

Here are a few more
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...astave2003.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...astave2002.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...astave2005.jpg
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...astave2008.jpg

i gotta go with pastel as well. i hatched out a few that are pretty similar to that this year and they just regular pastels as well.

he is a male I'll breed him and see. Just pastel? I don't think so.

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Originally Posted by Dave763

he is a male I'll breed him and see. Just pastel? I don't think so.

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Eh you should see some of the Pastels that Robin Abernethy has hatched, Pastels have a very large variance.

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Originally Posted by jluman

The pics in your links look like it's just a pastel?

Here are a pastel x mojave and pastel x mojave x spider that recently hatched for reference:
http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/DSC_0034.jpg

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I see the mojo pattern in the bumblebee mojave, but none in the pastel. Looks like a regular pastel to me...no mojo pattern at all.

Looks like a pastave to me blushing and mojo pattern a normal pastel would not have a mojo pattern would it.

regular pastel.
definitely no spider.
i don't see any mojo.

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Originally Posted by Dave763

I see the mojo pattern in the bumblebee mojave, but none in the pastel. Looks like a regular pastel to me...no mojo pattern at all.

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That is definitely a pastel mojave in my pic. I'm not trying to start an argument with you here, you just asked for opinions on your animal and I was trying to help.

NP thanks for the help. Just a pastel then oh well.

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Originally Posted by jluman

That is definitely a pastel mojave in my pic. I'm not trying to start an argument with you here, you just asked for opinions on your animal and I was trying to help.

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yea definitely a pastave all the way.

Pastaves look more like mojos than pastels, that snake is a pastel, sorry Dave ;)

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Originally Posted by katieLPN

Looks like a pastave to me blushing and mojo pattern a normal pastel would not have a mojo pattern would it.

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A pastave doesn't look like a pastel with mojo patterning, it looks like a mojo with pastel brightening it.

Here is a group shot Mojo, pastel, and a lighter pastel(the snake I questioned) from bumblebee female x mojo and pastel sires.All three are different clutches.
Just wishful thinking I guess:(
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...3/group012.jpg

No pastave in origional pics.Pastel only.

Looks like a pastel to me as well.

That new pic you posted, the one pastel looks older no?

three different clutches the light one has just emerged from the egg the other two are post shed 2010 babies