Can I bring my snake in the park, mall, etc etc where dogs are allowed

coz i was planning to bring my snake to a trip to the park with my gf and her dog, and she's like, NO WAY you're doing that! you will make people scream and probably cause us trouble, i'm not even sure its legal!

is it legal? lol

It's probably legal, but some people will freak out BAD if you take a snake. Rather than risk freaking someone out bad enough to call the cops or try harming you and/or the snake, don't do it. I get enough looks in my front yard with a wormy corn snake in a tree.

There's no reason to take your snake to the park with you - the only reason would be to get a reaction out of people, and we as a community really don't need the negative attention that would bring.

The snake is not going to enjoy the outing, and in fact is more likely to be stressed by the experience.

I'm with the girlfriend - leave the snake at home. There's zero benefit for your snake to take it to the park.

I went to a car show a while back and a guy was carrying around a ball python. Alot of people loved it and there were also the people that just stayed away. You can do it as a learning experience. Most people don't have the guts to come up to you and say anything so they will probably just give wierd looks and stay back. Cops can't really do anything since it's not a threat. Make sure of the rules where your going just to be sure.

It's not the fact of it being legal or anything.

We do not need any negative attention right now, especially with all the laws they're throwing out now-a-days.

Taking it to like a reptile show, or reptile store is different then taking them out to like a park or something. I wouldn't but we can't make your decision for you.

I'm sure it would attract attention, but why is it automatically assumed this would be negative attention? You're not going to take your snake by the tail and swing it around at little kids, are you? You'd be a dude with a snake in the park. I'm sure people would look, and some may even ask questions. Sounds like a good opportunity for positive attention...

We're reptile keepers, not meth addicts. We don't have to hide our "addiction"... :)

i'm with rabernet.

I dont get taking your snake to the park full stop..why? people take dogs to excercise..not for attention..Are you simply seeking attention..gf is right, leave the snake at home..my little boy would probably think it wasa cool idea but then again he is only 12
edit: even he wonders why?

depends on the place and the potential crowd; in where I live, I can afford to bring my fave retic in this complex known for having pet shops that specialize in exotics; it also happens to be the same complex where the exotic vet holds clinic. In *that* area, people dont freak out that much.

However, in any other places where the crowd can't evade you, i'd say it's not exactly a good idea.

Maybe his snake needs exercise ;)

I wouldn't personally take a snake to a park unless there was some kind of snake meet. I do take one or the other to the pet store on the rare day. It's a really good feeling when someone takes an interest in the snake, especially children.

It's not illegal, and if you don't take our advice, just be sure to be courteous to other people and don't ever walk towards someone who is visually terrified. You and I know that you're more likely to get bit by a random dog at the park, but someone who has a fear of snakes doesn't care and probably won't listen or care how friendly your snake may be.

Well Trollo, er kiddo, it may well be illegal for you to have your snake in the city you live in. San Francisco, I believe, has a no python rule.

If you need attention, shave your head and tattoo an image of your ass on it, that will get you all kinds of comments and looks and attention, which must be your sole goal, and it will have NO negative effect on all the rest of the reptile keeping world.

So long as you keep your snake at home.

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Well Trollo, er kiddo, it may well be illegal for you to have your snake in the city you live in. San Francisco, I believe, has a no python rule.

If you need attention, shave your head and tattoo an image of your ass on it, that will get you all kinds of comments and looks and attention, which must be your sole goal, and it will have NO negative effect on all the rest of the reptile keeping world.

So long as you keep your snake at home.

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Wow...trollo??? nice...while I personally have no desire to take my snakes to the park, or anywhere else for that matter, I don't see the need for all that...

I suggest the original poster take your advise and just get a tattoo. 'Cause tattoos, like taking a snake to a park, is all about wanting attention...

Why? :confused:

Even if legal (and for that you would need to check with your local ordinances)

• Do you realize that people owning snakes already suffer from a bad reputation?
  
• Do you really want to add to this reputation by subjecting people to your snake?

On the snake level do you found it necessary to subject your snake to stress for no valid reason?

It won't be good for the snake--ball pythons don't exactly enjoy being fully exposed out in the open. It would be the worst day of his life.

Phobic individuals will freak out, and probably write to their senators.

A dog may decide to try to have your snake for lunch. After all, people bring their dogs to areas where dogs are allowed when they feel their dog can handle being around other dogs, and around people. They don't necessarily expect their dog not to chase squirrels, and it would never occur to them to test how their dog handles being confronted with a snake.

Bad idea.

whenever i take my snakes to the park i get alot of positive attention, i swear, people that are scared of snakes & know nothing about them get a chance to learn about them & see that they dont want to hurt humans. they always ask the same question "omg is it venomous???" lol but more than likely you'll be just showing people that the snakes are nice beautiful animals, if you want to take the snake to the park, do it, its ur decision, its ur snake :gj:

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Phobic individuals will freak out, and probably write to their senators.

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That made me laugh. Write to their senators? Because someone had a snake at a park? Really???

I know sometimes people do some flaky things, but come on...that's tinfoil hat territory right there...:banana:

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That made me laugh. Write to their senators? Because someone had a snake at a park? Really???

I know sometimes people do some flaky things, but come on...that's tinfoil hat territory right there...:banana:

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lmao that is hilarious, but its funny because i can actually picure some jerk doing that, some little old lady might do that lol, i highly doubt it but its a funny thought :rofl:

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Well Trollo, er kiddo, it may well be illegal for you to have your snake in the city you live in. San Francisco, I believe, has a no python rule.

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That seemed a little uncalled for.

I guess I'm confused then, is he illegally in possession of a python then? Or there is state law mandating you can not be in possession of a python in a public area? If the later, that's just ridiculous.

I am no troll though, and I don't even see how that was a troll response. Last time I checked, trolls didn't contribute monetarily to websites which they trolled.

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That made me laugh. Write to their senators? Because someone had a snake at a park? Really???

I know sometimes people do some flaky things, but come on...that's tinfoil hat territory right there...:banana:

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Might not be likely but not tinfoil hat territory either.

The python ban in Florida (where I live) didn't become law because people thought snakes are cool in parks. We had a good debate going with lots of support from the reptile community but the ban went up anyway - because some people were vocal about banning them and a majority of people didn't care enough to make their opinions known while a very small minority tried to stop it. I will guarantee you that Bill Nelson will run for his Federal Senate seat without even a smidgen of this reptile ban endangering his campaign.

We show off our snakes for educational purposes but we do it through people coming to visit us in our homes or having a show-and-tell at my kids' classroom (pre-arranged with the teacher, etc.) or show-and-tell at the Boy Scout Patrol meeting (to get their reptile badges) or as an exotic exhibit at the church's Halloween Party (Mike Cavanaugh brought a very nice display - like the ones at the reptile expo - with all his awesome snakes, like 40 of them - to my church!).

The thing is - people go there expecting to see snakes so it's good experience all around.

If you notice, snake-phobic people who go to zoos don't mind seeing snakes there. That's because they expect to see them there. Therefore, it is a positive educational experience because their minds are open.

This is not the same as an education from some dude with a python at the park. The curious ones get a good education - they will be the ones who wouldn't have a problem with it in the first place. The phobic ones will just get more phobic and.... vote yes on legislation when it hits the senate floor.

Responsible education. That's the key.

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That seemed a little uncalled for.

I guess I'm confused then, is he illegally in possession of a python then? Or there is state law mandating you can not be in possession of a python in a public area? If the later, that's just ridiculous.

I am no troll though, and I don't even see how that was a troll response. Last time I checked, trolls didn't contribute monetarily to websites which they trolled.

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I don't think his post was addressing your post. It was addressing the OP's post.

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Originally Posted by jfreels

That seemed a little uncalled for.

I guess I'm confused then, is he illegally in possession of a python then? Or there is state law mandating you can not be in possession of a python in a public area? If the later, that's just ridiculous.

I am no troll though, and I don't even see how that was a troll response. Last time I checked, trolls didn't contribute monetarily to websites which they trolled.

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I believe he was talking about the OP, jfreels.

As for taking a snake to the park, I don't think it's a wonderful idea. Stress from being exposed and phobic people aside, it's also been awfully hot lately. I wouldn't want to risk it even if there was a chance it could enjoy being out at the park.

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I don't think his post was addressing your post. It was addressing the OP's post.

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My mistake. I should have figured when he didn't quote me. Sorry for the confusion, wilomn.

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Might not be likely but not tinfoil hat territory either.

The python ban in Florida (where I live) didn't become law because people thought snakes are cool in parks. We had a good debate going with lots of support from the reptile community but the ban went up anyway - because some people were vocal about banning them and a majority of people didn't care enough to make their opinions known while a very small minority tried to stop it. I will guarantee you that Bill Nelson will run for his Federal Senate seat without even a smidgen of this reptile ban endangering his campaign.

We show off our snakes for educational purposes but we do it through people coming to visit us in our homes or having a show-and-tell at my kids' classroom (pre-arranged with the teacher, etc.) or show-and-tell at the Boy Scout Patrol meeting (to get their reptile badges) or as an exotic exhibit at the church's Halloween Party (Mike Cavanaugh brought a very nice display - like the ones at the reptile expo - with all his awesome snakes, like 40 of them - to my church!).

The thing is - people go there expecting to see snakes so it's good experience all around.

If you notice, snake-phobic people who go to zoos don't mind seeing snakes there. That's because they expect to see them there. Therefore, it is a positive educational experience because their minds are open.

This is not the same as an education from some dude with a python at the park. The curious ones get a good education - they will be the ones who wouldn't have a problem with it in the first place. The phobic ones will just get more phobic and.... vote yes on legislation when it hits the senate floor.

Responsible education. That's the key.

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wow, ur church has a halloween party???? i thought halloween was satonic, well me personally i still celebrate halloween but i know alot of christians that are totally against it, i didnt think a church would celebrate it

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wow, ur church has a halloween party???? i thought halloween was satonic, well me personally i still celebrate halloween but i know alot of christians that are totally against it, i didnt think a church would celebrate it

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That's spelled Satanic...not satonic. He hates when people get that wrong...

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That's spelled Satanic...not satonic. He hates when people get that wrong...

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LOL COOL, I LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYDAY :gj:

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wow, ur church has a halloween party???? i thought halloween was satonic, well me personally i still celebrate halloween but i know alot of christians that are totally against it, i didnt think a church would celebrate it

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The church doesn't "celebrate" Halloween per se. The church has "activities" to encourage fellowshipping (so you can get to know the people who go to the church). Also a way to get to know people in the community (you don't have to be affiliated with the church to go - it's open to anybody).

It's on the same vein as the July 4th party and the Memorial day party and the Thanksgiving party and the End of School party, etc. etc. Lots of parties at my church. :)

But, as an aside - Halloween is not satanic. November 1 is All Saints Day - celebrating the lives of all saints. November 2 is All Soul's Day - celebrating the lives of all who have died. It just somehow morphed into this graveyard horror stuff.

Halloween parties at my church are nothing more than a costume ball (no masks and only G-rated costumes - like Disney Princesses and such) with carnival games and free food. Perfect place to have a Reptile Exhibit with all the kids loving that stuff and parents being more indulgent than usual.

The point is, why take an animal anywhere where it will most likely be stressed out. That alone should be enough of a reason not to take it to the park.

On top of that, if it bites or strikes just one time, the negative attention it will bring will be huge. I would say that 80-90% of people are afraid of snakes and will NOT enjoy seeing one there. We BP.net people are the minority. I don't think that BP's or even any other snakes need to be brought out in public.......all it takes is that one person who will freak out, write a senator, call the police, or whatever to give more ammo for the ban.

It would be best for the snake, community, and public to leave your BP at home where he belongs.

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the church doesn't "celebrate" halloween per se. The church has "activities" to encourage fellowshipping (so you can get to know the people who go to the church). Also a way to get to know people in the community (you don't have to be affiliated with the church to go - it's open to anybody).

It's on the same vein as the july 4th party and the memorial day party and the thanksgiving party and the end of school party, etc. Etc. Lots of parties at my church. :)

but, as an aside - halloween is not satanic. November 1 is all saints day - celebrating the lives of all saints. November 2 is all soul's day - celebrating the lives of all who have died. It just somehow morphed into this graveyard horror stuff.

Halloween parties at my church are nothing more than a costume ball (no masks and only g-rated costumes - like disney princesses and such) with carnival games and free food. Perfect place to have a reptile exhibit with all the kids loving that stuff and parents being more indulgent than usual.

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thats cool, when i use to go to church most of the christians at my church were so against it, but it sounds like alot of fun

Take it to the park. If people want to make a big deal over nothing then let them. Just make sure you use the no touching rule. Let people see it but nobody touch. It's not right to give in to the ignorance in the world because people act like someone took a dump in there cereal bowl the site of a not so typical pet. It's your pet and you have every right as anyone with a dog, cat, bird, or whatever to go out and do the same.

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Take it to the park. If people want to make a big deal over nothing then let them. Just make sure you use the no touching rule. Let people see it but nobody touch. It's not right to give in to the ignorance in the world because people act like someone took a dump in there cereal bowl the site of a not so typical pet. It's your pet and you have every right as anyone with a dog, cat, bird, or whatever to go out and do the same.

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The point is it will stress the snake out. I personally don't care if people know I own snakes but I would never do anything to stress my snakes out. I just don't se the point. I'm with wilomn shave your head and get a tatoo of your ass!

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Take it to the park. If people want to make a big deal over nothing then let them. Just make sure you use the no touching rule. Let people see it but nobody touch. It's not right to give in to the ignorance in the world because people act like someone took a dump in there cereal bowl the site of a not so typical pet. It's your pet and you have every right as anyone with a dog, cat, bird, or whatever to go out and do the same.

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You thinks laws trying to prohibit you (or anyone else for that matter) to own snakes is no big deal?

You think that taking a snake in a public place helps people perceive snake owners in a more positive way?

People never cease to amaze me, all that for what? Get attention? :rolleyes:

Can you tell me what the benefit are for the snake?

Snakes do not benefit from being taken to the park, neither does this hobby, nothing positive will ever come out of taking a snake to a park.

If you want to take your animal somewhere go to schools and educate people.

Kiddomarc, I noticed you put a thread up today about your BP having visable mouse feet, tail, and fur in its fecal matter. Obviously you know there is something possibly wrong with your snake. Why would you want to take it out of its element if it is possibly sick and not healthy?

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I guess I'm confused then, is he illegally in possession of a python then? Or there is state law mandating you can not be in possession of a python in a public area? If the later, that's just ridiculous.

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We've had this discussion before, and should save the details for the "laws and legislation" forum... but San Francisco (the city itself) does have an overall ban on pythons & boas, although they only really enforce it within pet shops. :oops:

What would be the benefit? Your snake isn't dying to get out into an unfamiliar, open environment with lots of people around. There are probably a lot of people at the park who aren't dying for you to bring your python.

Why bother?

I can't see myself ever doing this. It is stressful for a snake to change tanks or have his tank fully cleaned. Taking a snake to a park in an unfamiliar setting, with people they don't know is a bad move IMHO.

My pets come first, as much as I would love to have people ask questions and think it was cool. I doubt I would even take one to a rep show, it's just so much stress.

Please think of your animals, just because you can doesn't mean you should.

I've brought one of my snakes with my to the gas station, and gone on walks with him around my neck. He wasnt freaking as much as one would expect and stayed pretty reasonable. And a lot of people have ended up talking to me about it, and an entire party broke and came over to check him out, grab pictures with me, etc. It's fairly interesting to see how some people get about as excited as we do.

Mind that I only do this on ~80 degree days and make sure he is already calm before going out. Also I've only done it a few times and not recently (back when I kept him in a tank :rolleyes: ).

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Take it to the park. If people want to make a big deal over nothing then let them. Just make sure you use the no touching rule. Let people see it but nobody touch. It's not right to give in to the ignorance in the world because people act like someone took a dump in there cereal bowl the site of a not so typical pet. It's your pet and you have every right as anyone with a dog, cat, bird, or whatever to go out and do the same.

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Did well in school, didja? Lots of good marks?

Because your ignorance is just about big enough to drive a Semi through.

You can't just take you dog to the park. You can't have it running loose. Not out here. There ARE laws against it. Here if you don't have the right permits, you're not supposed to have a great many animals.

You have every right to your ignorance and I see that you have firmly embraced it. Perhaps if you give up on that death hold it has on your brain you'll understand that it's NOT just about YOU.

ALL of us are affected by ALL of us. One idiot is all it takes to bring bad publicity down on all of us.

DON'T go to the park. I've given you sound and solid reasons not to. Others have done the same. Other than getting attention for YOU, there is no reason to take your snake there.

And if your snake is pooping whole mouse parts, and you're still thinking of taking it to the park, you are either woefully uneducated or just the type of idiot we don't need in this hobby.

Depending on where you are I think. You can bring your dog into any store you want and if they tell you to get out you can say you have him for medical purposes and they can't do a thing about it. Same thing goes for a snake. This is with exceptions that your dog/snake isn't harmful. If some one called the cops they would get in trouble because there is nothing illegal about having a snake. Also this goes for the laws in my City and State not sure if they are Federal laws or not but before you try doing anything I would look up your City and State laws.

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Kiddomarc, I noticed you put a thread up today about your BP having visable mouse feet, tail, and fur in its fecal matter. Obviously you know there is something possibly wrong with your snake. Why would you want to take it out of its element if it is possibly sick and not healthy?

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Depending on where you are I think. You can bring your dog into any store you want

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Really? I don't think so but you can try it shouldn't take too long before someone shows you the door. ;)

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and if they tell you to get out you can say you have him for medical purposes and they can't do a thing about it. Same thing goes for a snake.

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Sure..............:rolleyes: and I guess you can tell them you have your snake for medical purposes too :rofl:

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If some one called the cops they would get in trouble because there is nothing illegal about having a snake. Also this goes for the laws in my City and State not sure if they are Federal laws or not but before you try doing anything I would look up your City and State laws.

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I am not even gonna comment on the last part :rolleyes:

I think it would be ok to bring the snake to the park. I personally HATE when people bring their big huge dogs to the park, they scare me--but people do it any way, and I never give them weird looks. I just stay out of the way.
(Reason for fear: I'm 4'11 tall, and those dogs could knock me over so easily. Ouch!)
I would hope that others would extend the same courtesy. However, people are stupid. People are mean. People are crazy. You can't rely on them to be sane about anything, or to react appropriately--which would often be to not react at all. :(
I guess it's up to you.

chill everyone, chill. wth, i'm just asking if its legal.

my snake for some reason is pretty friendly, i brought it ones with like 20 of us in a party coz my friends asked me to bring him and my snake was pretty okay with it, and almost everyone in the party appreciated him and that was their first time to actually handle a snake. my snake neither really go to the 'ball stance' nor 'attack S mode', he just likes smelling everyone lol.

for everyone who said i'm trying to grab attention, well i am not. in fact, that's lame to think in the first place that that is my plan, that's pretty judgemental. and to that person asking me to have some tats, i actually do have it and its on my chest and back where people wont actually see it till i took my shirt off. im not really an attention grabber person, i just like tats too coz for me its art and fun to look at after i shower and after hitting the gym.

the reason im planning to do that, is coz i could have something to have fun with in the park and not exactly bore me.. i'm not really a dog person, more of a snake person i would say. lol.

you see, i treat my snake as my buddy, he always hangs out beside me when i'm using my computer and all that. basically, he is out of his cage most of the time, and most of the time beside me or around me.

oh well, but i guess you made your point, parks are not good since people will freak out.. about stressing my snake, i dunno, maybe, but he is kinda used to different people touching him and he seems to be liking it.. he's pretty sociable. lol

The only reason that I can understand why someone would take their snake to a public area would be for shock value.

Keep it at home. People probably won't think you're "cool" for taking your snake out in public. All it'll do is reinforce the belief that snakes should be banned, because people are ignorant. They'll see a 5' long BP and think that it is going to reach 13' and be eating human babies in a weeks time. 99.9% of people don't know the difference. So to keep harm away from your snake, keep it at home.

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Depending on where you are I think. You can bring your dog into any store you want and if they tell you to get out you can say you have him for medical purposes and they can't do a thing about it. Same thing goes for a snake. This is with exceptions that your dog/snake isn't harmful. If some one called the cops they would get in trouble because there is nothing illegal about having a snake. Also this goes for the laws in my City and State not sure if they are Federal laws or not but before you try doing anything I would look up your City and State laws.

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Wow - I work for an organization that trains service dogs. You can't just SAY that your dog is with your for medical purposes if it has not been certified as a service dog.

Last I checked, there's no such thing as a service snake.

And yes - in some areas it IS illegal to have a ball python - including San Francisco where the OP lives.

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That...is kindof horrible right there. So many levels of dishonesty! This is me not being amused or impressed.

I'm all for dog-friendly stores, and I love carting my little Cricket with me wherever I can (and her small size makes it easier than, say, my friends who have large dogs) but I would never take her where she isn't welcome.

On the subject of snakes in parks...I think people need to decide for themselves. If a snake is stressy or prone to stress, I wouldn't reccomend it...but I disagree that taking a pet with you is purely for attention or shock value. On the (admittedly rare) occasions where I've had my snakes out in public, even those who are afraid are often keen to ask questions, and it gives me an opportunity to explain that snakes aren't evil or whatever.

But again, to each his own.

I was referring to if there are no laws pertaining to the snakes. Always abide by the laws but if there isnt, go for it and if you dont like the outcome then dont do it again. Personally i live in PA on a farm and back in the woods so im pretty used to doing what i want with nobody to tell me otherwise. Id have to double check on the laws of snakes in public around here but if its not illegal, i wouldnt hesitate to take it to my local park. Guys at my work want me to bring it in sometime so they can check it out. And none of them are fond of snakes but are still curious about it. And if you really want a simple answer to why take a snake to the park? Its because its a companion. Maybe its not the same companion as a dog or cat but its still a companion to some of us. If its like mine, its used to people but not other animals. Id take mine to a regular park but probably not a animal park. You guys can call me ignorant but i just dont care what somebody else thinks about me having a snake. And i would never do anything that would seriously hurt any of my animals. To the OP, you asked for an opinion on taking the snake out, I say do it if you can be responsible about it. If you want to listen to everyone else than thats fine too. Im not here to tell you what to do, only give my open opinion. I can see everyones point with other people not liking it and depending on the weather can be very uncomfortable for the snake. But at the same time you gotta look at it as, "if its legal" why should you care what someone else thinks. And you gotta use a little common sense about the weather too. I understand the stress factor but thats also knowing the snake. I have my snake out alot and he doesnt act stressed, scared, or anything unless one of my cats come nearby. Hes used to being out and around people.

In instances like this, i think of the animals welfare first and foremost. It might be legal to take a snake to the park, but in my mind, i would think would i want to see a snake at the park or in the mall, and then i would be thinking of what kind of stress the snake might be going through, being out in the open like that.
Snakes are secretive by nature, they prefer to remain hidden, it makes them feel secure, so by taking them out of their secure settings, you would be putting undeserved stress on your pet.
Myself, i have never thought about bringing any of my snakes outside in a public setting, and i never will do it.

This is just my opinion, of course:)

fellas i'm not from San Francisco, I'm near there though.. but its not illegal in my city.. i wish i live in SF, so expensive though.

anyways, you guys are right, it would be awkward to see a snake in the park.. lol.. i'll just keep em in their enclosure and try to enjoy my gf's dog. lol :)

There is a guy in st louis that drives around in the summer with his windows open and the BP is wrapped around the wing mirror. Obviously attention seeking and prob scares the hell out the snake.
I dont see a problem taking ur snake to the park. if it's curious and likes to look around it might be nice for the snake; however, i'd do it well away from crowds and try not to let people see.....just incase:rofl:

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Did well in school, didja? Lots of good marks?

Because your ignorance is just about big enough to drive a Semi through.

You can't just take you dog to the park. You can't have it running loose. Not out here. There ARE laws against it. Here if you don't have the right permits, you're not supposed to have a great many animals.

You have every right to your ignorance and I see that you have firmly embraced it. Perhaps if you give up on that death hold it has on your brain you'll understand that it's NOT just about YOU.

ALL of us are affected by ALL of us. One idiot is all it takes to bring bad publicity down on all of us.

DON'T go to the park. I've given you sound and solid reasons not to. Others have done the same. Other than getting attention for YOU, there is no reason to take your snake there.

And if your snake is pooping whole mouse parts, and you're still thinking of taking it to the park, you are either woefully uneducated or just the type of idiot we don't need in this hobby.

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Theres no need to insult people dude. People have their own opinions and and are entitled to express them. You dont have to go and tell them to a an ass tattooed on them and call them an idiot. It just makes you look like a not so nice guy:.