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Dominant Trait BP's

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  • 07-26-2010, 03:59 AM
    stupidcracker00
    Dominant Trait BP's
    Can someone please give me a list of as many dominant trait BP's as you can think of? I know Spiders are but what else?

    Thanks in advance,
    SC
  • 07-26-2010, 06:33 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    Dominant and not co-dominant - the other would be Pinstripe (although Brian Barczyk may have proven a super that looks the same as a non-super pin).
  • 07-26-2010, 08:19 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    I think the jury is still out on spider. At least no one has come forward with a homozygous spider to let us know that it looks and acts the same as the normal (heterozygous) spiders except for producing 100% spider when bred to normals. There have been rumors that such an animal might exist but with no one claiming it I have to believe it's still possible that spider is homozygous lethal which I think would be technically co-dominant. So pinstripe is the only proven dominant ball python mutation by my count.
  • 07-26-2010, 10:23 AM
    JoeEllisReptiles
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    Pretty sure these are dominate.

    Calico, Champagne, Coral Glow, Desert, Tiger/Genetic Banded I am sure there are others.
  • 07-26-2010, 01:16 PM
    stupidcracker00
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JoeEllisReptiles View Post
    Pretty sure these are dominate.

    Calico, Champagne, Coral Glow, Desert, Tiger/Genetic Banded I am sure there are others.

    Could someone varify if this is correct? Are there any others?
  • 07-26-2010, 01:22 PM
    Mrgbb
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    okay from what i know theres calico, champagne, granite, pinstripe, spider, coralglow and tiger. thats all i know.
  • 07-26-2010, 08:57 PM
    stupidcracker00
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mrgbb View Post
    okay from what i know theres calico, champagne, granite, pinstripe, spider, coralglow and tiger. thats all i know.

    Ok sweet! That's good enough for me! If anybody else thinks of some feel free to add them!
  • 07-26-2010, 08:59 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    Calico is co-dom as is Granite :P
  • 07-26-2010, 11:13 PM
    JoeEllisReptiles
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    There is a super calico?
  • 07-26-2010, 11:18 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Calico is co-dom as is Granite :P

    Some lines of granite do look different as homozygous granites, but I don't think I've ever seen a homozygous calico, has anybody made any?
  • 07-26-2010, 11:33 PM
    Hypnotic Exotic
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    I heard there was a super calico and I have seen a picture but I've also heard speculation that it might just be an exceptional calico as no others were produced. Last I heard the jury is still out but maybe someone else here can clarify?
  • 07-27-2010, 02:39 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    I don't know about calico, granite, or tiger.

    But for champagne and desert I'm not sure a female has produced yet so if that hasn't happened don't see how we could know on either of those.

    The homozygous spider is long overdue so again, I'm leaning homozygous lethal which would be technically co-dominant but very hard to prove.

    Coral Glow is perhaps the most interesting of this list. Is it agreed to be the same as Banana? The Banana originator posted some pics on VPI Breeders Bragging site of what are believed to be Super Banana. There also seems to be some sort of bias against males in both lines and the very peculiar report of the first males of each line producing 100% coral glow/banana daughters and nearly 100% normal sons when bred to unrelated females. My theory to explain this is that the mutation is sex influenced like balding in humans which is not on the gender chromosomes but behaves differently in males and females (in the case of Coral Glow/Banana recessive in males but co-dominant in females). However, a big problem with this theory is there are at least three reports of rare males produced without inbreeding. Need some more breeding results to try to narrow down what is going on with Coral Glow/Banana but it might be co-dominant, at least in females.
  • 07-27-2010, 02:49 AM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: Dominant Trait BP's
    These were posted by Dr Del awhile back, Dan Wolfe I'm presuming prove the Super Calico out?

    http://www.dwherp.com/Wright08.JPG
    http://www.dwherp.com/Wright08_2.JPG

    Just going by hear say, I have yet to see one myself.
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