Check my logic with this BEL question...

Okay, I've been wracking my brain on this for a couple of days.....let's say I take a BEL male that was produced from a LesserxMojave, and breed it with a Lesser female. What would the possible outcomes be (percentages)?

BEL (LesserxLesser)
BEL (LesserxMojave)
Lesser
Mojave
Normal

Thanks very much for your help!

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Originally Posted by FragginDragon

Okay, I've been wracking my brain on this for a couple of days.....let's say I take a BEL male that was produced from a LesserxMojave, and breed it with a Lesser female. What would the possible outcomes be (percentages)?

BEL (LesserxLesser)
BEL (LesserxMojave)
Lesser
Mojave
Normal

Thanks very much for your help!

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12.5%: Normal
25%: Lesser Platinum
12.5%: Super Lesser
12.5%: Mojave
25%: Mojave, Lesser Platinum
12.5%: Super Lesser, Mojave

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Originally Posted by FragginDragon

Okay, I've been wracking my brain on this for a couple of days.....let's say I take a BEL male that was produced from a LesserxMojave, and breed it with a Lesser female. What would the possible outcomes be (percentages)?

BEL (LesserxLesser)
BEL (LesserxMojave)
Lesser
Mojave
Normal

Thanks very much for your help!

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50% BEL
25% Lesser
25% Mojave..

No normals

I believe it would be:
25% BEL (super lesser)
25% BEL (lesser mojo)
25% Lesser
25% Mojo

This is from a Punnet square I just made. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by Agent73

I believe it would be:
25% BEL (super lesser)
25% BEL (lesser mojo)
25% Lesser
25% Mojo

This is from a Punnet square I just made. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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this is correct

see now im way lost, i guess i can understand there being no normals (i dont but ill play along LOL) but why wouldnt there be a super lesser mojo in the mix?

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Originally Posted by 771subliminal

12.5%: Normal
25%: Lesser Platinum
12.5%: Super Lesser
12.5%: Mojave
25%: Mojave, Lesser Platinum
12.5%: Super Lesser, Mojave

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I know this what the genetic wizard is saying but is this right? Seems wrong to me that the chance for a normal is there, goes against what my Punnet square says. Also super lesser mojo from that pairing? really?

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Originally Posted by 771subliminal

see now im way lost, i guess i can understand there being no normals (i dont but ill play along LOL) but why wouldnt there be a super lesser mojo in the mix?

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Because the Mojo Lesser BEL is a homozygous animal and not a combo like a bee..

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Originally Posted by 771subliminal

see now im way lost, i guess i can understand there being no normals (i dont but ill play along LOL) but why wouldnt there be a super lesser mojo in the mix?

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Becuase the dad has 2 codom genes. So all the kids would get at least 1 of those. All would get either the lesser or mojo gene and there would be no normals, right?

Also there couldn't be a super lesser mojo becuase the kids would get either the lesser or mojo from the dad, not both right?

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Originally Posted by Agent73

Becuase the dad has 2 codom genes. So all the kids would get at least 1 of those. All would get either the lesser or mojo gene and there would be no normals, right?

Also there couldn't be a super lesser mojo becuase the kids would get either the lesser or mojo from the dad, not both right?

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ok then explain how bee x pastel = killerbee? wouldnt this pairing fall under the same rules?

i see no reason, why there shouldnt be a super lesser mojo. i think u have the chance.

pastel lucys do exist. so why not mojo super lesser lucys...

i just dont get it...

the wizard thay the wouldnt get produced but i think they would.

when u bread a lesser to a lesser pastel, u get bel pastels. when u breed a lesser to a lesser mojo u would get super lesser mojos- or not?

just because they are on the same complex doesnt mean that they are not compatible in this way. the double lucy does exist- so why not this...

Because Mojo and Lesser are different versions of the same gene..

To have a Super Mojo Lesser would be like saying Super Cinni Black Pastel..

Lesser Mojo BEL's are for all intensive purpouses Supers since when bred to a normal they don't reproduce or produce Normals

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Because Mojo and Lesser are different versions of the same gene..

To have a Super Mojo Lesser would be like saying Super Cinni Black Pastel..

Lesser Mojo BEL's are for all intensive purpouses Supers since when bred to a normal they don't reproduce or produce Normals

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and people wonder why we get so confused:rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by 771subliminal

and people wonder why we get so confused:rolleye2:

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...and that's why I posed the question :rofl:

Thanks all for your help in clearing this up for me!

The online "Genetics Wizard" doesn't work for different alleles on the same locus, AFAIK (unless I just haven't figured out how to do it yet :rolleyes:). If you type in "lesser" and "mojave" as the two co-dominant traits, it assumes that they're on two different loci even though they (presumably) are not, which messes up the results.

Exactly, you can't have 3 genes occupy 2 spaces. A snake can only have 2 copys of the BEL gene because they share the same locus.

A double lucy is both black eyed and blue eyed lucy. It is possible because the fire gene is on a different locus, it is not part of the "BEL complex".