Gargoyles

After getting ZERO last year, we lucked out and got FIVE this year out of a clutch of eight. Had to make these after we saw Ralph's.


http://www.theherpvault.com/images/c...red_clutch.jpg

http://www.theherpvault.com/images/c...L10_hatchW.jpg

Good odds! I'm shooting for some in 2011.

What the :cens0r: makes those ??!!

Those are amazing babies, I want one !!

Gale

Hmm very interesting looking ,congrats :gj:

Gargoyles? Is that what they're calling them now?

Great looking snakes, 5 is real good odds.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by angllady2

What the :cens0r: makes those ??!!

Those are amazing babies, I want one !!

Gale

---

A Cinnamon x Het Red Axanthic make a Gargoyle :)

-Daniel

Im pretty sure its a Het red Ax. to a cinnamon
One of my future projects!



Edit: Icandi beat me to it!

But I think this pairing was black pastel because I can se one in the top left corner.
What is the sex ratio?
Does anybody know how much gargoyels are going for these days?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jjsnakedude

But I think this pairing was black pastel because I can se one in the top left corner.
What is the sex ratio?
Does anybody know how much gargoyels are going for these days?

---

Im not really sure. If its a Black Pastel thats a whole different morph from the Cinnamon which means there not "Gargoyles" there something new :D

-Daniel

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by angllady2

What the :cens0r: makes those ??!!

Those are amazing babies, I want one !!

Gale

---

Thanks, These are Cinnamon X Het Red Axanthic. Gargoyle is what I have always heard them referred to as. I believe that Amir (Snakes at Sunset) coined the name, but I think his "het red" was what he called a green pastel :confused: .....all these names sometimes :confuzd: makes my head hurt.

Oh, and that is a cinny in the top left corner---haven't got a for sure sex ratio yet, but looks like 2.3 on the cinny het reds

Amazing snakes! Never heard of those before!!! AWESOME!!!

Oh very nice!

Congrats on that many!!

That's awesome!

And to answer the question, I named the Black Pastel x Het Red the Onyx to differentiate between the two.

Should be in the new version of John Berry's book.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/blog/designer-morphs/

Hi,

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Congrats on that many!!

That's awesome!

And to answer the question, I named the Black Pastel x Het Red the Onyx to differentiate between the two.

Should be in the new version of John Berry's book.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/blog/designer-morphs/

---

Page 37 fig.44 in fact. :salute:


dr del

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LadyOhh

Congrats on that many!!

That's awesome!

And to answer the question, I named the Black Pastel x Het Red the Onyx to differentiate between the two.

Should be in the new version of John Berry's book.

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/blog/designer-morphs/

---

I thought you were calling it the Chipo?

Stunning animals! Makes me want to get a cinny and a red axanthic myself.

HUGE Congrats!

Heather - I love the name Onyx, I think its a perfect fit for the Black Pastel Het Red.

I really need cinny!!

Those are hott!!

Oops My bad :D

sweet snakes you got there, I hope to produce one or own one someday

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MarkS

I thought you were calling it the Chipo?

---

Chipo is her name. :) Not the name of the Morph

Hmmm... I just got a cinny... Het reds aren't to pricey... And these look pretty cool...

What do the adults look like? And why are they called "het red" axanthics?

they are killer! i'd really like to see an adult or sub adult:please: if anyone has any could you post a pic or a link for me please?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by stevepoppers

Hmmm... I just got a cinny... Het reds aren't to pricey... And these look pretty cool...

What do the adults look like? And why are they called "het red" axanthics?

---

Not sure who other than Ralph Davis has cinnamon het reds, and his site may have an adult picture. Het reds are het for red axanthic, produced by Corey Woods. Check here for more information http://www.coreywoods.com/red.shtml

Ok, so red axanthic is just a super blackback. I still don't get what makes them red. Oh well.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by stevepoppers

Ok, so red axanthic is just a super blackback. I still don't get what makes them red. Oh well.

---

No, HET red axanthics are often blackbacks. Homozygous red axanthics look like axanthics with a slightly reddish cast to them when compared to other lines of axanthic. At least as babies.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by stevepoppers

Ok, so red axanthic is just a super blackback. I still don't get what makes them red. Oh well.

---

Het red axanthics do have black backs, but they're not blackbacks. On the link I posted Corey Woods explains how red axanthics start out black and grey, and as they age they turn more ruddy and cream, then they return to black and grey.

Ok, that's a little better. Well, anyway COOL SNAKES!

Sorry for the sideshow. =P

Beautiful gargoyles Adam! Great odds also.

I hope one of my clutches currently incubating will give me a gargoyle or two. ;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Alice

Beautiful gargoyles Adam! Great odds also.

I hope one of my clutches currently incubating will give me a gargoyle or two. ;)

---

Thanks Alice (and everybody) Good luck on those eggs.

astaley, would love to see an updated pic of your gargoyles at a year old.

Congrats on the odds!! Great snakes

These are amazing! How do you produce these I never heard of this morph.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by LunaBalls

These are amazing! How do you produce these I never heard of this morph.

---

Nevermind its already be anwsered.

Those are some fantatsic looking snakes. Gratz and thanks for sharing.

You have any spare male het reds for sale?

Hi,

Please keep all sales discussions to either the appropriate forum or PM's.


dr del